Women's Equality Party and Chris Kaba

[HerGorgeousMajestyArabellaScott]

Tweets yesterday and today lamenting Kaba's death.

This was a violent criminal who was subject to a restraining order from his then-pregnant girlfriend.

Why are WEP tweeting in support of him?

https://x.com/WEP_UK/status/1848648576710107247

The CPS reviewed the evidence and believed it to be sufficient for a charge of murder.

We disagree on their intentions for the tweet. You believe their intention is solely to support criminals who are a danger to women. I believe their intention is to highlight racism in the Met, given that they cite a recent investigation that found institutional racism.

The CPS don't decide whether someone is guilty or not guilty. The courts do that. All the CPS can do is look at the evidence and decide whether they think there's a realistic chance of conviction. As Arabella already quoted:

'The CPS assessment of any case is not in any sense a finding of, or implication of, any guilt or criminal conduct. It is not a finding of fact, which can only be made by a court, but rather an assessment of what it might be possible to prove to a court, in accordance with the Code for Crown Prosecutors.'

I understand that the CPS don't do the job of a court.

I said that the CPS found evidence for a charge of murder.

I believe their intention is to highlight racism in the Met, given that they cite a recent investigation that found institutional racism.

And how does this align with their objectives as stated above? I've quoted Arabella's post so you can see them.

Banging on relentlessly and pointlessly about Kaba's supposed innocence in the face of all of the very obvious footage, evidence, and the jury's verdict is most likely to undermine attempts to try and tackle prejudice and abuse from the police.

Does nobody read 'the boy who cried wolf' anymore?

Meanwhile, this is the feminist board, on a site called 'Mumsnet', discussing the Women's Equality Party defending a violent abusive male.

All it shows is the WEP is WEPINO, I guess. They don't centre women and they never will. Wonder who bankrolls them?

@SummerFeverVenice
The police officer was unanimously found not guilty by the 12 jurors, some of whom must have black, bearing in mind the diverse population in London. Even if there was only 1 black juror, they didn't believe that the officer was guilty of murder. None of them did. It wasn't a split verdict.

You need to let them know that they aren't allowed to mention anything outside their 'objectives'. They're a political party not a lobby group; therefore they'll be concerned with various other issues.

Intersectionality means that women can be affected by anything such as disability rights, racism and discrimination, austerity, welfare changes, unfair detention etc

Things can affect women which aren't specifically aimed at women. For example, women were found to be disproportionately effected by austerity.

Black women are affected by racism which can touch every area of their lives. Black mothers suffer from lack of adequate maternity care for example.

Racism in the Met affects black women because not only are they affected, their husbands and sons are as well.

I read the tweet as saying the Met is and has a history of being racist, misogynistic and homophobic so an investigation into the actions of the police officer should be seen as the bare minimum; rather than the constant hand-wringing over how this upsets the officers. So less a defence of Kaba and more a push for there to be some accountability for officers, or have there been others by them calling him a poor innocent lad?

Should we forget that many of these are the same officers now complaining about the scrutiny they are under were fine working with a guy nicknamed ‘The Rapist’ before he murdered Sarah Everad, or the ones who have rape jokes, or racist jokes in personal chats with each other?

Does the WEP have any gutsy Authentic Lesbians ( excluding ST) wot speak out and make The Patriarchy shiver?

I'm just pondering how piss poor WEP is - having spent the morning reading the submissions for FWS by comparison.

All I can find is some bleatings on FB and X. No great substance to anything.

Is that it?

Racism in the Met affects black women because not only are they affected, their husbands and sons are as well.

Domestic violence affects all women because not only are they affected, their sisters, mothers, and daughters are as well.

I read the tweet as saying the Met is and has a history of being racist, misogynistic and homophobic so an investigation into the actions of the police officer should be seen as the bare minimum; rather than the constant hand-wringing over how this upsets the officers. So less a defence of Kaba and more a push for there to be some accountability for officers, or have there been others by them calling him a poor innocent lad?

The photo used is of Kaba. Kaba's story is not an example of police racism (let's call it that for the sake of argument) which affects women. Not even indirectly, in this case.

Are there no examples of police racism, misogyny or homophobia directly affecting women that the WEP could have highlighted? I'm pretty sure there are.
So why did they go with the domestic abuser?

Lowering the tone somewhat, I do like this meme someone's posted in reply to the WEP tweet.

@username1589 -
They did know the car had been used in a shooting... I didn't say they knew Kaba was inside the car...

He had been so violent towards his partner, who was pregnant at the time, that he'd been issued with a DVPO which banned him from contacting her.

I'm disgusted that the WEP is sticking up for him. It's a new low for them.

To be honest I'm glad he was shot dead. He brought nothing positive to the world, only violence and abuse.

That's correct, the car was believed to be linked to a firearms incident which took place the previous day.

No, I don't think you should say that about someone whose full story we do not know. I fully support the firearms officer; the jury have seen all the evidence and made their decision. However, there is a large leap between that and being glad someone has been shot dead

Many people agree with you. You'll be delighted to know that the police want to bring in changes that include making it more difficult to find officers guilty of unlawful killing.

He'd been so violent to his partner that he was banned by court order from being anywhere near her. He'd shot some guy in a nightclub the week before, following him outside and further shooting him several times in the legs. He was a leading member of a notoriously violent drugs gang, of whom several members are currently in prison for armed violence and attempted murder. When he was shot dead, he was attempting to kill police officers with his car.

Men like this are irredeemable.

No I'm not delighted by that.

Agreed.

They sound like idiots really on this particular issue. Chris Kaba sounded like a dreadful human being who would still be alive if he hadn't tried to drive through a lawful police block. Life is not Grand Theft Auto as Chris Kaba discovered. He is now dead.

I know. I passionately hate everything he did to make the world a worse place, particularly for the women in his life. I still don't feel glad that he was shot dead though. Not sure what emotion I do feel, but it's not glad.

The autopsy on George Floyd ruled out asphyxiation as the cause of death. He had a cocktail of illegal drugs in his system, any one which might have killed him, not to mention fentanyl.

You need to make sure the correct authorities get that evidence because they are under the impression, after two autopsies and a trial, that it was homicide. The officer found guilty on all three murder and manslaughter charges, is currently serving time in prison.

He was given the courtesy of the criminal justice system.