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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Kamala Harris has a problem with men. Will misogyny cost her the election?

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IwantToRetire · 21/10/2024 18:01

There was an earlier thread about whether the Democrats would support a WOC candidate https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5124648-will-us-democrats-support-a-woc-as-their-candidate-or-will-they-by-pass-kamala-harris

And I think there were some later about her policies, but then maybe there weren't. https://kamalaharris.com/issues/

But was depressed to see this article Kamala Harris has a problem with men. Will misogyny cost her the election?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/20/kamala-harris-has-a-problem-with-men-will-misogyny-cost-her-the-election
(Should have been men have a problem, not making out she is the problem.)

Polls reflect this age-old dichotomy. Men are more likely to back Trump; women lean towards Harris. A recent New York Times-Siena poll put her 16 points ahead of Trump among female voters. NBC gave her a 14-point lead with women. Trump leads by up to 16 points among men.

Harris’s gender may be tacitly affecting or reinforcing attitudes in other voter categories. In the New York Times poll, 60% of white college-educated voters backed Harris, while 63% of white non-college-educated voters backed Trump. Likewise, Trump, who is white, has a significant advantage among white people while Harris, who identifies as black and Asian, leads among non-whites. Yet voters in two other key categories, blacks and Hispanics, are less supportive of Harris than of Biden in 2020, surveys show – a decline partly driven by younger, non-college-educated Hispanic males. Speaking in pivotal Pennsylvania, Barack Obama angrily castigated his black “brothers” for finding “all kinds of excuses” not to support a woman.

Its just really depressing to think this is the basis on which the decision about the next US President is taken. Because like it or not what the US does or doesn't do impacts on the rest of us.

Even though they are now talking about Trump's mental capacity Trump’s Unwieldy Speeches Raise Questions About His Mental Acuity https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2024/10/16/trumps-unwieldy-speeches-raise-questions-about-his-mental-acuity/ it doesn't seem likely it will change the minds of his supporters. And is already clear he doesn't feel the need to abide by accepted norms in terms of procedures.

Divisive politics in the UK seems to have lead to an apathy, disengagement (low turn out at GE) but it seems, if news channels are to be believed, that in the US the devisions are making people more active engaged. More oppositional

Or rather men not caring about women's issues, or even trusting a woman to be President.

Kamala Harris has a problem with men. Will misogyny cost her the election? | Simon Tisdall

After a rousing start to her campaign, the Democratic candidate is flatlining in the polls, and sexism could swing the vote in Donald Trump’s favour

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/20/kamala-harris-has-a-problem-with-men-will-misogyny-cost-her-the-election

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Hoardasurass · 06/11/2024 13:16

Well she's lost so I'm sure that ww will be given multiple election autopsies

duc748 · 06/11/2024 13:21

The public looked at the Democrats, and they don't like what they see. Just 'not Trump' was clearly not enough. Seems to me it's the general direction of the Dems into identity politics that people don't like, it goes beyond KH as an inndividual.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 06/11/2024 20:22

Democrats and the Labour Party. Do the job you're supposed to do which is defend the rights of the working man and woman. Please cease your obsession with wokery and the Palestinians. Normal working class people are concerned about the cost of living, if they can get to the end of the month, ability to access health care and cost of housing. That's all you have to do.

XChrome · 06/11/2024 22:09

YourAmplePlumPoster · 06/11/2024 20:22

Democrats and the Labour Party. Do the job you're supposed to do which is defend the rights of the working man and woman. Please cease your obsession with wokery and the Palestinians. Normal working class people are concerned about the cost of living, if they can get to the end of the month, ability to access health care and cost of housing. That's all you have to do.

Amen! Say it louder for the people in the back.
Seriously though, the Democrats will not prioritize economic equality. They are virtually enslaved by their corporate donors.

duc748 · 06/11/2024 22:47

Meet the new boss... 🎵

YourAmplePlumPoster · 07/11/2024 17:24

If Trump gets men out of women's sports and facilities I'm good with that. Funny that the party that goes on about women's rights doesn't think their sports or single sex spaces should be protected.

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