NHS Fife tries to silence nurse

[Hoardasurass]

So as has been mentioned on threads about the Darlington nurses a nurse is sueing NHS Fife over its trans staff policy.
The poor nurse was forced to get changed infront of a man in the female changing facilities, when she complained about it she was 1st told to change in a cupboard if she didn't like it, then they tried to bully her into swapping shifts so she didn't work with the man in question (she wouldn't), then they wanted her to move hospital (again she refused) so then they suspended her without pay for months until her solicitor got involved and now they are trying to gag her by insisting that the court case (starts in February) must be held in secret (I wonder why) and will be in crt next month asking to restrict reporting on the case.

This case is really important in Scotland because the trans staff policy that's going on trial in this case is the Scottish government's own policy used in all public sector organisations in Scotland and works on self id. So when this case is won it will finally kill the Scottish government's self id policy in all public bodies

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/nhs-fife-fights-secret-hearings-33877891?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

It should be noted ‘counsellor’ and ‘psychotherapist’ are not protected titles. Anyone can use them.

Scroll to 26.26 to get to the person of interest.

Not via the BACP website, even with the BACP Credential ID number given from their Professional Diploma in Counselling, although they say they are a registered member. Pollock was a speaker at a BACP event in 2022.

Am I missing something here? The old identity is invalid and that person no longer exists. The new identity is for a whole new person. But that new person surely has no medical qualifications, as they would belong to the old person?

And then there's criminal records, DBS checks (or whatever they call them this week)... it's almost like the legislation was passed without anyone really thinking through its implications. No-one should be able to change their birth certificate (except in the case of genuine errors), Amend, maybe, but not change. The original data should remain on record,

@duc748 completely agree. It’s like wholesale legalised fraud.

So you can just 'identify' as a counsellor or psychotherapist, then?

This is a good, if worrying, point.

Either they're someone new or they're not. Safeguarding disaster.

It IS wholesale legalised fraud.

It's also a safeguarding failure when it applies to DBS and medical qualifications.

I presume this is all part of the "sacred caste' approach. One group is allowed exemption from all the fundamental principles that applies to everyone else in relation to safeguarding, scrutiny and accountability?

themostspecialelfintheworkshop ·
As you can tell this has really upset me a lot. More and more I just think the UK is not a good place to live.

It goes against the grain for an Irish republican [with a small R, i.e. a citizen of a republic as opposed to a subject of a kingdom] to leap to the defence of the UK and in particular the UK justice system, BUT the roll-call of GC women who have won cases in UK courts/tribunals is impressive, and this has not just given encouragement to critics of extreme transgenderism, but has also provided the WORIADS defence against it.

You don't have to look far [over here, for example, or Australia, Canada etc] to find countries where 'genderwoo' is so deeply embedded in the legislation that I don't think cases like Forstater, Phoenix, Bailey etc etc would even be heard, let alone won; and frankly I feel a twinge of envy about that aspect of the UK, aka Terf Island

So the UK may not be a good place to live for all sorts of reasons, but as far as legal challenges to genderism is concerned, I don't think it's the worst.

Yep. And whilst you are at it you might as well as Nutritionist to your CV too.

Sorry, yes. Better link:
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Agreed. And we have the much misunderstood, much misrepresented Equality Act to thank for those legal victories. The Gillard Amendments to the Australian Sex Discrimination effectively magic away biological sex in law and destroy women's rights. I believe the Canadian equivalent is very similar.

Thanks - yes you're right. Although I don't think it should have been as hard as it has, and the legal wins have not resulted in sufficient change yet. But this has cheered me up a bit.

Don't get me started on dementia care though, sex deception abuse is just the abusive cherry on top of the stinking shit sandwich as far as that goes.

The legal framework in the UK is much better, but we have a big problem with our media and their self-imposed omerta on the effect of trans activism.

BananaAppleOrange

Yep. And whilst you are at it you might as well as Nutritionist to your CV too.

That brings to mind Dr. Gillian McKeith, or to give her her full medical title: Gillian McKeith.

(Ben Goldacre got one thing right).

Agree, isn't suborning perjury supposed to be something that judges/lawyers are struck off for

The other thing I think is that if people are watching their pronouns it puts everyone on the back foot walking on eggshells around these people (often the alleged perpetrator rather than a victim/witness) when they are already under stress being under oath in a court of law. Not a good way to ensure that you get quality evidence.

Did she put her Tinder profile in there by mistake?

Accountant and bookkeeper are also terms anyone can use without qualifications.

I’m really sick of this abusive types of men. And the types who turn head over heel to shill for them. And completely trample over the rights of women in doing so. I think these types of men really know what they are doing, and for some reason can get other people to become their cat’s paw. Unfortunately for women, the whole world jumps to trample on women who have the temerity to push back. These men know their presence where a woman is undressing, or the men themselves boldly undressing in such a place is oppressive, and something definitely hangs in the air. I don’t know if they get a kick out of that. Then they scream ‘poor me’, that bad woman is being hateful for pushing back against this sort of abuse. And everybody pretends their reverse misrepresentation of it is the truth. In my view, that hospital can’t bend enough over backwards for him, and damns her audacity to wish to be treated fairly with their every word and action.

I take issue with the EJ’s point about the ‘2nd respondent’ is not volunteering to be in court, unlike the claimant. It completely misses the point of the case. I’m sure Sandie Peggie wishes she never had to take such a case. I’m sure Sandie Peggie wishes the sort of men who undress in women’s spaces were never allowed to do so in her place of work. A space that her tax contributions pay for, becoming a place where she has to be uncomfortable undressing in front of a man, or him getting his kit off when she might be alone in such an enclosed space. I’m sure she never wished to be treated so badly for standing up for her own rights to dignity, privacy and safety. And now those who did that are acting as if they were the ones more sinned against. Indeed the hospital itself are saying it outrageous that Sandie Peggie is calling out the 2nd respondent. Protecting him, when they threw her and other women to the wolves. Well any wolf in sheep’s clothing.

These men know their presence where a woman is undressing, or the men themselves boldly undressing in such a place is oppressive

this is what gets me. He knows he's making women uncomfortable, or worse. And so does the hospital. Because those women are bloody telling them, they're going to court over it, for fuck's sake.

It's so wilfully women hating it's difficult to believe

Madras College in St. Andrews (Fife) have an interesting photo of their S6 class of 2012-2013. Amongst the other lads in the back row, is a student with light reddish hair called Theo Upton. Madras College also have a piece in their ‘Easter Newsletter’ March, 2013 about this Theo Upton. He was on their Warhammer 40K team that retained the national title when they won the School League’s title in Glasgow!

If someone was 18 in 2013, they’d be turning 30 this year. So, 26 in 2021. And 27 in 2022.

Everything I’m referring to is in the public domain. Indeed proudly published by the school itself. On its current website or archive site. Photos, names and articles.

Dr Upton I presume…

That sounds like they studied another degree first then studied medicine.