Tavistock Lead Psychologist is a Paedophile

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13914025/amp/Psychologist-works-Tavistock-clinic-remains-FREE-practice-despite-caught-grooming-schoolboy.html

Well, colour me surprised

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TempestTost Strictly speaking, this guy does not seem to be a peadophile, he seems to be attracted to teens, which is a different thing. And it's also worth noting that this kind of liaison between teen and older gay men used to be an accepted feature in much of the gay community, and there are still groups within the community who see that as ok. More so than people ok with liaisons with children which seems to be a much smaller group. If you've ever looked at a thread here talking about this kind of hook up, there is a really surprising number of people who defend it as a "normal gay thing".

The 'child' [actually a decoy] he arranged to have sex with presented as a 15-year-old. That's legally a child, and a very young teen, if he's attracted to 'teens'. That's at the child end of the definition of 'teen', if you ask me.

I agree with you about the blanket use of the the term paedophile - it implies someone who is primarily sexually interested in children [I'd include 15-year-olds in that, BTW] whereas many men who abuse children do so simply because children are easier to get at and control than adults. They often have relationships with adult women as well. That's true of most abusers I've encountered, including the one who abused me when I was a child.

So whether or not Canade is a 'paedophile', or whether he just finds children easier to access and control, he is an abuser.

It could be a stretch, except we seem to see so much of this kind of thinking throughout youth psychiatric care, and in particular in gender related care.

As in, it seems to be completely endemic.

Lots of us have asked where these attitudes are coming from. Well, maybe it is guys like this getting themselves into leadership positions in these kinds of institutions.

I mean, 15 is pretty much right in the middle of the teenage years?

The distinction from the perspective of psychiatry between a pedophile and someone attracted to teens is based not around the legal definition of a child, but around puberty - a teen is in the midst of acquiring adult sexual characteristics, has sexual interests of his or her own, and is likely fertile.

It's not a legal distinction or term.

But you are right of course, there are people who abuse kids who aren't especially attracted to them, they would abuse an adult who was vulnerable too. It's either about interest in vulnerability, or access.

As excuses go, it makes 'the dog ate my homework' or 'I ran over myself while reversing because I'd eaten too many baked potatoes' look like works of genius.

It's on the feminism board because having a safe space to discuss whatever they like is a feminist issue, full stop.

It feels like every day there's some new pedophile or fetishist "revelation" 🙄

Power differential. It's also about being able to wield and misuse power.

Excellent point, thank you.

The Tavistock gender clinic hasn't closed yet

You dont think many of the gender clinic referalls possibly came by way of encouragement from cahms... just possibly 🙄

I did a course there as well, about 20 years ago. It was in a very specific statistical technique.

These suspended sentences seem quite lenient.

This and Marie’s comments before it are excellent points that people often don’t realise.

Guest, the clinic for children and young people closed last year. The adult service is still open, but is being relocated out of the main building this month- but remaining open.

But but but he has now lost° his employment and good character

and everyone knows a man’s job and reputation is more important than a child’s emotional, physical and mental well-being

jfc the excuses are just insufferable aren’t they?

°deliberately trashed all by himself and not passively ‘lost’ down the back of a sofa by accident

A close relative, an excellent and experienced child psychiatrist who worked in CAHMS for many years, was relieved to retire as he said his clinical practice had been so compromised by everything trans.

Like the Dutch olympian who was given a very short sentence for raping a 12 year old because he would also be punished by the loss of his career. Which of course he didn't lose - the incredibly misogynistic Durch system combined with the very shorrt sentence meant he could pick up his career a year later with no consequences.

Exactly this,

It is naive at the very least to suggest that there is no link.

CAMHS tried this with my autistic daughter too. Many many GIDS referrals came from CAMHS. They have pretty good access to vulnerable and/ or autistic kids.

The fact that he was in the same Trust makes the link even clearer.

See the Julie in Genderland podcasts for further discussions of other families who have experienced this.

The boy very specifically told him that he was 15. Because it was a sting operation.

I wonder if this guy thought he could employ a bit of deniability about the boys age if he got caught. Because I should imagine he is absolutely not the first.

Isn't it weird that some people are unable to see that the safeguarding risk that men pose to children (98% of child sex abusers are male) is a feminist issue?

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I'm sorry to hear that this happened in your family. I hope your daughter is doing OK now.

I have no doubt that we would have been off to GIDS too, had I not put my foot down and made the difficult decision to withhold the urgent mental health support that my daughter needed while the error (they accepted that their protocol needed changing) they brought in was on her paperwork. At no point did she ever "identify as a boy". It's been a while since I've shared it but here's what I wrote about it all:

https://www.transgendertrend.com/teenage-gender-identity-crisis/

On reflection, I was a little too upbeat about how things ended up (particularly on the school side of things) but a lot of good stuff happened afterwards in relation to CAMHS**. I met some fantastic people who really did get it. I didn't tell them how to do their jobs, I just opened up the conversation so that they could tap in to what they already knew at a professional level.

However, despite the good progress so far, I know that there will be a block somewhere (at a systemic level). What remains to be seen is a) how high up that goes and b) whether the inevitable blocking person is a Be Kind puppet type person or a nefarious actor. Either way, it's not in tin-foil hat land to assume that there are nefarious links in high up places between CAMHS and GIDS. That is why the article in the OP is relevant here.

**Some good stuff happened in relation to school too but I think it's fair to say I've now butted up against the blockers (that I knew all along were inevitable).

I think some people just don't like women talking to each other. Especially about safeguarding. MN even banned a safeguarding expert for doing just that.

@BonfireLady well done to you!

My daughter never identified as a boy or non binary. She was already out of school when puberty hit because she couldn't cope in the environment so I think the social contagion element passed her by (thankfully).

That didn't stop CAMHS trying to 'explore gender' with her when she presented for mental health issues associated with Autism. Their assumption was based on how she presented (not stereotypically girly).

We were able to nip it in the bud but I KNOW that many many autistic girls in our area no longer identify as girls. I do not think that this is a coincidence.

It is most likely that the mental health worker at CAMHS was just doing what they thought was 'best practice'. It does concern me that CAMHS don't see sensory issues/ social issues for what they are rather than jump to conclude that it is a gender issue.

Christ.

I think those who promote the medical transition of children would do well to ask themselves why paedophiles like Ross Canade and Jacob Breslow might be interested in working for organisations which help children stop their puberty (thereby creating people who are chronologically over over the age of consent, but with the sexual and brain development of a child).

Not always. Sometimes it's access. You can see this sometimes, particularly in cases where the abuser is also vulnerable, it's just a matter of someone who isn't in a position to really refuse, or understand what is going on, being available. Whereas someone who is an adult or aware wouldn't get into that situation at all.

The sex drive can be demanding in men,and not all have access to a sexual partner. If someone doesn't have the normal internalized social controls on their behaviour, what they do can reflect that. And people can lack those internalized controls for a lot of reasons, they are sociopathic, they have a personality disorder, they aren't mentally competent, drugs, they have been taught it's normal - or people can know something is wrong but they are weak. None of that has to come out of an interest specifically in power differentials.