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Les Bas Bleus, The Bluestocking...

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ErrolTheDragon · 20/09/2024 19:07

En franglais, in English .... open to all women for company, fun and fabulous artworks. Leave unwanted reality in the porch and come along in.

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Bannedontherun · 23/09/2024 21:03

Fuck now i want to know what AI would produce as such an image

Boiledbeetle · 23/09/2024 21:11

Bannedontherun · 23/09/2024 20:59

@RaspberryParade I agree with you!!!

Having said that boiled, android and co are do everything they can to confuse AI.

Maybe that is the answer. GC luddites unite and fight.

Oooooo maybe ask AI to depict les trans genre femme?

Not in this pub mind you.

This is true we have been feeding it incomprehensible rubbish for the last few months. And hopefully making it think some very very bizarre scenarios may be true (when patently they arent!) I've given it thumbs up on the worst of its mangling of things in the hope the AI thinks beetles should have 3 legs and human teeth! Etc.

Magpiecomplex · 23/09/2024 21:18

I agree too, @RaspberryParade . AI is fun to play with but I would never spend money on AI "art", and wouldn't display it in my house. It's not art, no effort or talent has gone into creating it. I'm supremely inartistic and am in awe of people who can do it properly!

Boiledbeetle · 23/09/2024 21:24

It does occasionally throw out some decent ones mind!

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Bannedontherun · 23/09/2024 21:25

@Boiledbeetle my suspicions have been confirmed then. I propose a new movement to derail AI.

Was on the hard left many moons ago so know how to annoy.

Maybe we could agitate with the TRAs cause AI to be transphobic. A Trojan horse if you will.

Dunno what to call it though maybe anti android action?

talking drivel now lol

Boiledbeetle · 23/09/2024 21:32

Bannedontherun · 23/09/2024 21:03

Fuck now i want to know what AI would produce as such an image

It seems to flag the word trans (and other words) and will refuse to produce an image. These are old ones that were erm interesting. God knows what the prompt was for them!

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Bannedontherun · 23/09/2024 21:35

Have you tried a man in a dress?

Boiledbeetle · 23/09/2024 21:37

Bannedontherun · 23/09/2024 21:35

Have you tried a man in a dress?

I probably shouldn't have included a seagull in my request.

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Bannedontherun · 23/09/2024 21:48

I just remembered a meme at school in the seventies “a woman with man’s legs” I don’t recall what it meant it was up north.

Magpiecomplex · 23/09/2024 21:58

Gemini refuses to do people at all unless you subscribe to the advanced version.

inkymoose · 23/09/2024 22:25

Boiledbeetle · 23/09/2024 21:37

I probably shouldn't have included a seagull in my request.

That image made me laugh for ages! The man's expression .... priceless

ifIwerenotanandroid · 23/09/2024 22:30

RaspberryParade · 23/09/2024 20:42

A genuine pox on all the houses of those encouraging AI.
Women artists are the most underpaid sector in Britain.
£10000 being the average earnings.
They are undervalued at auction at 50 percent of mens just because they were women.
Tested recently when auctioneers were shown same paintings and swapped names from men to womens.
Aside from that its grostesque excuse for creativity for those who have none or are too idle to put the work in.
Everyone knows the problems with AI yet encourages it.
Its always the same,going with the crowd no matter the harm.
There was exactly the same warnings with smartphones.
And now everyone blames them but wont take an responsibility for adopting them.

I regard myself as testing AI art rather than adopting it. I find it fascinating to see what it can & cannot do, what instructions it runs with really creatively & which ones it simply doesn't understand. What words has it never heard of, what images which I think are commonplace haven't been given to it? How is it sidetracked by certain words? Why does it sometimes work better than others? What ideas are obvious to a human but not to AI? What must the people who programmed it be like, what view of the world do they have?

The Bluestocking, & the wonderful ladies in it, provide ample opportunities to imagine & try to reproduce scenes both realistic & fantastical. It's fun but also, as I say, a constant test environment. This is not for any commercial purpose, purely for my own entertainment & interest. I hope the resulting images amuse my fellow patrons of the Bluestocking.

Do you have a link to the auction experiment? I find this sort of thing fascinating too - like the orchestra auditions in which more women were chosen when the auditioning musicians were hidden by a screen. And the painting in the Sister Wendy book, which was uncriticised when everyone thought it was by a man, but once it was attributed to a woman people began to find fault with it!

I'm an artist - I've exhibited & sold work in various media, I've won awards & competitions, I've had commissions. I know how hard it is. I'm not certain how much work AI is taking or will take - is there any information on this? I'm only using a free version of one product: how much better are paid-for products? Does anyone have experience of AI animation?

JanesLittleGirl · 23/09/2024 22:32

This thread has gone seriously weird but still makes more sense than the Moira Deeming thread.

Boiledbeetle · 23/09/2024 22:35

JanesLittleGirl · 23/09/2024 22:32

This thread has gone seriously weird but still makes more sense than the Moira Deeming thread.

Everything makes more sense than the Moira Deeming thread!

She follows me on twitter don't you know! Which means by the thinking of that thread she obviously fully endorses cats, tunnocks, marmite and poems and I'm aligned with the far right!

Boiledbeetle · 23/09/2024 22:38

Anyway we're in a pub.

Who wants another drink?

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Magpiecomplex · 23/09/2024 22:39

I'll have the green one please. Always secretly fancied myself as Servalan from Blake's 7.

PurpleSparkledPixie · 23/09/2024 22:41

She follows me on twitter don't you know! Which means by the thinking of that thread she obviously fully endorses cats, tunnocks, marmite and poems and I'm aligned with the far right!
Marmite can get in the bin, as can the far right. Otherwise I'm right behind you and Moira 💪

inkymoose · 23/09/2024 22:43

Bannedontherun · 23/09/2024 21:48

I just remembered a meme at school in the seventies “a woman with man’s legs” I don’t recall what it meant it was up north.

I have this book by Jacky Fleming called THE TROUBLE WITH WOMEN. It features women getting men's legs, corsets, unsuitable sports, baffled geniuses such as Darwin who stated that all geniuses were male, et cetera. Absolutely bloody brilliant

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Boiledbeetle · 23/09/2024 22:43

Magpiecomplex · 23/09/2024 22:39

I'll have the green one please. Always secretly fancied myself as Servalan from Blake's 7.

I once met Avon, Villa and Peter Tuddenham who did the computer voices at a Blake's 7 convention about 30 years ago. I was most dismayed Servalan wasn't there!

And the ending was a total cop out!

ifIwerenotanandroid · 23/09/2024 22:45

Send the gerbil back for a treble Baileys, would you? And a slice of that Black Forest gateau - this is the Bluey, it's not going to do anything to my blood sugar level. I wish I'd realised earlier.

Boiledbeetle · 23/09/2024 22:48

PurpleSparkledPixie · 23/09/2024 22:41

She follows me on twitter don't you know! Which means by the thinking of that thread she obviously fully endorses cats, tunnocks, marmite and poems and I'm aligned with the far right!
Marmite can get in the bin, as can the far right. Otherwise I'm right behind you and Moira 💪

But but but... marmite is the food of the gods!! I worship at the alter of Marmite daily!

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ifIwerenotanandroid · 23/09/2024 22:51

Boiledbeetle · 23/09/2024 22:48

But but but... marmite is the food of the gods!! I worship at the alter of Marmite daily!

There's nothing like Marmite on toast to make the world feel right.

Magpiecomplex · 23/09/2024 22:51

Can't live without marmite!

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Bannedontherun · 23/09/2024 22:52

My head is blown can I have a chocolate orange please

Boiledbeetle · 23/09/2024 22:53

ifIwerenotanandroid · 23/09/2024 22:45

Send the gerbil back for a treble Baileys, would you? And a slice of that Black Forest gateau - this is the Bluey, it's not going to do anything to my blood sugar level. I wish I'd realised earlier.

There you go. Enjoy

Apologies the kitchen was out of cherries

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