In Australia - Moira Deeming defamation trial now on

[TheSandgroper]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-17/moira-deeming-john-pesutto-defamation-trial-day-two/104360100

This is from our very TRA ABC. Please note the comment from “Mr Southwick, a Jewish MP re Angie Jones’ tweet”. Well, Angie Jones is as Jewish as they come but they don’t say that.

Also, for, those who don’t know, see Angie on m.youtube.com/@TERFTalkDownUnder, though she hasn’t posted for a while. Some really good interviews.

Pesutto acted like a prize galah in this instance.

He sure did love this expression, it's some sort of parrot, right?

A lovely pink and grey one.

Like this..

Well every day is a school day. I never knew a galah was a parrot 👍

Someone's milkshake brings all the someones to the yard.

Not only a parrot. But the type that seems to do things that make human's laugh. Cockatoos and galahs do this. Having a couple of permanently disabled cockatoos growing up was very funny to see them play around and then they would break out in cackles. But we often saw those cockatoos interact with galahs as well.

All the other types of parrots that we had did not do this. Well, except maybe the budgies did sometimes.

Not really. She isn't facing these consequences "simply because she was standing up for women's rights". That isn't the court case at all.

Thanks, @RaspberryParade - how very useful to know. It's interesting and depressing how many 'concerned' parties seem so very unconcerned about this massive problem in the ranks of law enforcement and find something to punish women for instead.

Not really. She isn't facing these consequences "simply because she was standing up for women's rights". That isn't the court case at all.

I disagree that it isn't a key element of why she has been treated as she has.

Like this..

Oh they're pretty!

@Ereshkigalangcleg

I disagree that it isn't a key element of why she has been treated as she has.

I assume you read the transcript? Are you also aware of the Moira Deeming's politics? I'll give you a clue: she's acting like she's not aware of many things, but her politics would tell you otherwise. She'd likely become a bit extreme even for the Liberal Party - and in the Australia, that can get fairly radical. (In Australia, the Liberal Party = right wing - the equivalent of Tories).

So women whose politics are the ‘equivalent of the tories’ shouldn’t have the right to speak?

and must be up to no good for supporting a LWS event?

Good grief , what a shocking way to think & you think you are the good guys?

It is just incredible.

It's very revealing when people insist on silence from women with politics they disagree with. Along with a recent development on this board of a few posters demanding unconditional approval for their posts - mischaracterising debate / disagreement as personal attacks and pile ons.

Familiarity with democratic principles and free speech seems sadly absent at times.

Complete derail, sorry, but all that talk about galahs -

I reckon they are watching someone making a right galah out of themselves! I won't derail further, but if you'd like to hear a song about kookaburras and laugh like one, google 'Kookaburra sits in the old gum tree' If not, just forget I ever posted this and get back to the serious topic under discussion😔

Yes to all that with a massive lack of political intelligence / downright laziness of thought.

@Ereshkigalangcleg

So women whose politics are the ‘equivalent of the tories’ shouldn’t have the right to speak?
and must be up to no good for supporting a LWS event?
Good grief , what a shocking way to think & you think you are the good guys?

No. I really wish people would not put words in my mouth.
Those are some of the reasons Deeming was 'on the edge', so to speak. She was already operating barely within the confines of her party rules. It isn't anything to do with being a woman.

Sorry, that was meant for @lifeturnsonadime

@lifeturnsonadime

Yes to all that with a massive lack of political intelligence / downright laziness of thought.

I'd agree with that sentiment, yes.

Mmmm , too often you accuse of putting words into your mouth but if what you mean that you don’t think any Tory aligned politician regardless of their sex should have the right to speak up for women because their politics are wrong I still think you are shutting voices for women up.

When your common theme across multiple threads is to criticise those trying to speak up for women then people making assumptions as to your motives shouldn’t really be a surprise to you.

So why do you think it supports the democratic process to be on more than one thread criticising women who don’t share your political beliefs for speaking out against gender ideology?

I don’t want to be accused of putting words into your mouth but your name crops up in threads involving KJK quite frequently, and on this thread you do appear to be suggesting that Deemings voice isn’t worthy of a listen either. So what IS your point if I’ve got you wrong and you’re not saying this?

Can you be specific as to what you believe she supports that is 'on the edge' of the party rules please?

And in my opinion, I think the Liberal Party seems to be more to the centre than the Tories. Perhaps you are thinking of other parties such as the National Party which is a coalition partner.

@lifeturnsonadime

So why do you think it supports the democratic process to be on more than one thread criticising women who don’t share your political beliefs for speaking out against gender ideology?

I don’t want to be accused of putting words into your mouth but your name crops up in threads involving KJK quite frequently, and on this thread you do appear to be suggesting that Deemings voice isn’t worthy of a listen either. So what IS your point if I’ve got you wrong and you’re not saying this?

I'm allowed to read and comment on whatever threads I choose. Like most people, I have interests. I'm not interested in having them questioned or policed by you.

Where have I said Deeming's voice isn't worth listening to? What I've said is this: her views are such that they don't fit with the Liberal Party any longer. (These are easy to find, should anyone be interested.) The fact she is a woman isn't a factor here. She went outside the bounds of the party. I think the Nazi name-calling - the actual matter at trial here - is incorrect and unwarranted. The grotesque Thomas Sewell crowd turn up to events unannounced and unwanted.

Does that help you?

I assume you read the transcript? Are you also aware of the Moira Deeming's politics? I'll give you a clue: she's acting like she's not aware of many things, but her politics would tell you otherwise. She'd likely become a bit extreme even for the Liberal Party - and in the Australia, that can get fairly radical. (In Australia, the Liberal Party = right wing - the equivalent of Tories).

Not sure what any of that has to do with whether she was libelled over speaking and helping to organise a women's rights event 🤷‍♀️

No. I really wish people would not put words in my mouth.
Those are some of the reasons Deeming was 'on the edge', so to speak. She was already operating barely within the confines of her party rules. It isn't anything to do with being a woman.

Why did you tag me in this response? It wasn't me, I've only just read your odd post.