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"Good Law Project to cease taking on Trans Legal Cases from 2025 onwards" - according to angry trans reddit

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TorghunKhan · 03/09/2024 18:02

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1f82b6s/good_law_project_to_cease_taking_on_trans_legal/

Good news if true indeed.

I cannot however find any evidence further afield, does anyone get the GLP newsletter? that seems to be where this is from.

A full quote supplied in the reddit thread says:

"Dear Friend
We’ve been working together to stand up for trans rights, so I thought you’d like to hear how Good Law Project’s work in this area is going to evolve.
In 2025 we’ll be shifting our focus. Instead of funding or taking on legal cases ourselves, we’ll be supporting a trans and queer organisation with a three-year funding commitment. We’ve thought long and hard about the best way to keep fighting for trans rights and lives, and we feel that this is the moment for us to put our weight behind an organisation led by trans people.
It’s getting harder and harder to win rights for the trans community through the courts, and it doesn’t feel right to keep asking the community and its allies to carry on contributing to the enormous costs of this increasingly difficult litigation.
We’re incredibly proud of the work we’ve done in this space over the last five years. We’ll keep acting as allies, speaking out when we can make a meaningful contribution to the debate and supporting the tireless work of others standing up for trans rights. But for now, at least, we’ll be focusing our legal campaigns elsewhere.
We still have important work to do between now and the end of the year. In November we’ll be making sure the voices and experiences of trans people are heard, when a case affecting the freedoms they have relied on for 20 years is heard in the Supreme Court.
And through our colleagues at Good Law Practice we’ll carry on supporting The Clare Project to get answers at inquest about the tragic loss of a trans person’s life.
Good Law Project only exists because of the amazing support of people like you. I hope you’ll keep working with us as we keep holding power to account.
In solidarity,
Jo, Good Law Project"

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Peakpeakpeak · 07/09/2024 10:32

Always got the impression Jolyon fancied himself for that role, but I really can't see him being given it.

LoobiJee · 07/09/2024 11:35

Wouldn’t that role require hard work, accuracy, and attention to detail?

And a willingness to allow the activities and financial accounts of any organisation the post holder has previously been responsible for being subject to rigorous and public scrutiny?

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 07/09/2024 11:35

Peakpeakpeak · 07/09/2024 10:32

Always got the impression Jolyon fancied himself for that role, but I really can't see him being given it.

I don't think JM would get out of bed for that money, I was more thinking of the legal roles that will accompany this.

That and whether some of the relevant NHS England committees with roles available for 'parent of a transgender child' etc. will have some interesting applicants.

I sometimes wonder how many NHS England committees are chaired by someone with a transitioning or transitioned child.

Waitingfordoggo · 07/09/2024 11:44

‘It’s getting harder and harder to win rights for the trans community through the courts’

=

‘It’s getting harder and harder to convince the world that the Emperor is wearing a magnificent cloak made of gold thread when everyone can clearly see he has his meat and two veg on display’

StainlessSteelMouse · 07/09/2024 11:44

I've no doubt there have been quid pro quos. For Stonewall it will have been something like "we'll stay quiet in the runup to the election, we won't cause any trouble over you adopting the Cass review findings, you'll give us the conversion therapy bill". Doesn't have to have been as crude as that, but it would explain why Streeting took the position he did and there was total silence from the major alphabet community groups.

There's probably something specific at GLP which is different. The change in government has collapsed their business model, because donors don't have Boris Johnson to be angry at any more, and they were increasingly left with Jolyon's personal hobbyhorse as their main activity. And if we observers can pick up on Jolyon's emotional state, GLP insiders may have been wondering if he was really the man to lead them into a new business model.

GailBlancheViola · 07/09/2024 11:50

Waitingfordoggo · 07/09/2024 11:44

‘It’s getting harder and harder to win rights for the trans community through the courts’

=

‘It’s getting harder and harder to convince the world that the Emperor is wearing a magnificent cloak made of gold thread when everyone can clearly see he has his meat and two veg on display’

That phrase about winning rights for trans people really pisses me off, they don't want to win rights they want to remove rights from others.

Just get in the bin with that.

Waitingfordoggo · 07/09/2024 12:00

Exactly @GailBlancheViola. Trans people have the same rights as everyone else- rightly so. But they are not entitled to privileges rights which remove rights from others.

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 07/09/2024 12:45

It's hit and miss as to whether I can ever see tweets at present but I wonder if Barbara Rich has expressed an opinion about JM and the GLP.

GailBlancheViola · 07/09/2024 12:49

Peakpeakpeak · 07/09/2024 10:32

Always got the impression Jolyon fancied himself for that role, but I really can't see him being given it.

I do think JM fancied some Government or Consultant/Advisor to the Government role and thought he would be a shoe-in but he blew it after that tirade against Wes Streeting hence the flounce to the wilderness. I also think that tantrum against Wes Streeting focused minds at the GLP.

Peakpeakpeak · 07/09/2024 13:12

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 07/09/2024 11:35

I don't think JM would get out of bed for that money, I was more thinking of the legal roles that will accompany this.

That and whether some of the relevant NHS England committees with roles available for 'parent of a transgender child' etc. will have some interesting applicants.

I sometimes wonder how many NHS England committees are chaired by someone with a transitioning or transitioned child.

As with a lot of government and public life roles, it's not really about the initial salary but the status and doors it opens. Some of which are financial. It's like how people always say about it's a disgrace that X gets paid more than the PM, but don't factor in that the PM is going to be quids in once they leave the role.

StainlessSteelMouse · 07/09/2024 17:44

Peakpeakpeak · 07/09/2024 13:12

As with a lot of government and public life roles, it's not really about the initial salary but the status and doors it opens. Some of which are financial. It's like how people always say about it's a disgrace that X gets paid more than the PM, but don't factor in that the PM is going to be quids in once they leave the role.

Back in 2015, Jolyon briefly convinced himself that if Ed Miliband won the election he was going to be Attorney General. So yeah, I think it's more about the status and influence.

The trouble is that for these roles, there's a due diligence process to be gone through. Since the business of Toby Young being appointed to and then ousted from the Office for Students, they keep a particular eye out for candidates with colourful social media footprints.

Peakpeakpeak · 07/09/2024 18:07

Mmm, and I actually think even the fox thing alone could've been enough to put him on dodgy ground. Then obviously he's, erm, progressed since then.

StainlessSteelMouse · 07/09/2024 18:27

Labour voters are very sentimental about foxes, that's all I'm saying.

Manderleyagain · 07/09/2024 23:22

I don't think the two statements by glp contradict each other. The first says they are moving away from trans litigation, but continuing with other litigation. The second says they are changing how they will pursue litigation. Instead of having a law firm of their own to do it they will appoint external lawyers (presumably depending on the specialism needed) to litigate for them. Glp will be the client not the lawyer. ?

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 08/09/2024 00:36

Grammarnut · 03/09/2024 19:18

So it's getting harder to deprive women of their sex-based rights in favour of privileges for transwomen. Good.

Excellent news. We shouldn’t be having to battle for our basic rights.

highame · 08/09/2024 08:11

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 07/09/2024 10:08

I'm another person who is apprehensive there are deals in the background and women are about to be stitched up with new legislation: these are the quid pro quo for Stonewall, GLP etc as PPs suggest.

I can only hope that the government have read the room and seen that the majority of the population do not accept self id. However, that doesn't mean we wont get changes that impact on us in more insidious ways that result in something so close to self id that it just wont matter. We'll be stuffed imho

fromorbit · 23/09/2024 11:00

Joylon has returned to twitter. Looks like the rumours he was eaten by foxes were not accurate this time.

Some things have changed. Lots of tweets targeting Labour government... normal enough. Even some targeting rapists and criminals.

No mention of the fact GLP has abandoned the great crusade for trans support over women.

Even when he attacks Streeting it is because he might not ban outdoor smoking.

Look at the first tweet he made on the 20th targeting the dead criminal Al Fayed. I think he and GLP are manoeuvring looking for a new angle for fund raising. Posing as anti-rapist protectors is part of that.

The structural failings that meant this could happen then - the adverse costs regime, the lack of access to lawyers and a criminal justice system that protects rapists but not victims - mean it also happens now.

‘A monster’: lawyers for Mohamed Al Fayed’s alleged victims liken case to Savile
From theguardian.com

GLP, with the help of a full time specialist media lawyer, we are working with several victims of powerful men to help them tell their stories. Please, if you need help, get in touch.

We all know if Al Fayed wore a dress Joylon would back him no matter what. I think he will still attack pro-women supporters, his own family circumstances mean that, but the chance of power and money was one reason he was strongly committed to it.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/sep/20/mohamed-al-fayed-alleged-victims?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

https://t.co/irG3gTjf04

Boiledbeetle · 23/09/2024 11:30

fromorbit · Today 11:00

Joylon has returned to twitter. Looks like the rumours he was eaten by foxes were not accurate this time.

@fromorbit
It was the kimono, it made it hard for the foxes to get a decent grip on him

"Good Law Project to cease taking on Trans Legal Cases from 2025 onwards" - according to angry trans reddit
ArabellaScott · 23/09/2024 12:47

GLP, with the help of a full time specialist media lawyer, we are working with several victims of powerful men to help them tell their stories. Please, if you need help, get in touch.

Will he talk to women rape survivors in Scotland who were called 'bigots' by Mridul Wadhwa?

TWETMIRF · 23/09/2024 13:08

Is he planning to help rape victims with the same success rate of his trans cases in order to protect the rapists?

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