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3 questions for GC women

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ChirpyFinch · 28/08/2024 00:27

As the title says, three questions for the women in this chat.

  1. Do you think the majority of people are gender critical, and why/why not?

  2. Globally, the right wing is more vocally gender critical than the left. They are also far more likely to be regressive on a range of women’s issues like abortion and anti-gay. Why do you think they agree with GCs on this one issue but disagree on so much else (if you think they do?)

  3. How many trans people do you estimate there are globally?

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Datun · 29/08/2024 16:50

RedToothBrush · 29/08/2024 16:44

In some ways the swearing is liberating in terms of it being a female dominated site - women are allowed to swear - rather than having to maintain this stereotype of the good wife / mother who is well behaved. You don't have to put up that facade which I do think is essential expected of women online otherwise. It's more of the concept of the silence of women.

I completely agree. It was that sense of we don't supervise anyone here, that made it such a liberating place to be. The very concept is female orientated.

Which is why, to me, the insistence that just as much house room is given to what I believe is a male supremacist ideology, rankles so much.

DeanElderberry · 29/08/2024 16:51

Aria999 · 29/08/2024 16:41

I don't mind swearing. I am still confused by the Biscuit though. I get that it's rude and dismissive but I don't actually know what it means.

Someone once replied to my post with just this and I was so confused I had my own post deleted and hid the thread.

I didn't know either so I clicked on it and in less than a second I had the information that it represents a biscuit. Which seems like a good thing. Biscuits are good, right?

If there's a secret complicated comestibles code I intend to ignore it.

Snowypeaks · 29/08/2024 16:53

lcakethereforeIam · 29/08/2024 16:49

I think re. swearing it's perhaps like the difference between seeing a tiger on TV, a tiger in a zoo and a tiger loose outside your home? IYSWIM. Only going to be dangerous in one situation.

Thanks for the tiger cub gif.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 29/08/2024 16:56

DeanElderberry · 29/08/2024 16:51

I didn't know either so I clicked on it and in less than a second I had the information that it represents a biscuit. Which seems like a good thing. Biscuits are good, right?

If there's a secret complicated comestibles code I intend to ignore it.

Is it a Jammy Dodger?

I have no clue what it's used for on MN though.

DeanElderberry · 29/08/2024 17:00

Probably a Jammy Dodger but the label just said biscuit. Pity it isn't one of those nice ones with bits of ginger, but still, a biscuit? Who could fail to love it?

Except coeliacs and those of us allergic to wheat, but we're weird.

CocoapuffPuff · 29/08/2024 17:02

I've always wondered about the biscuit.
Biscuits and, indeed, all baked goods, seem to be loaded with additional meaning on MN.

Datun · 29/08/2024 17:06

I think technically it's meant to mean something fairly mild like I disagree and probably won't be engaging further.with you.

But colloquially, it feels like someone's just given you the finger.

DeanElderberry · 29/08/2024 17:12

Gosh how shocking. But do you still get to eat the biscuit? I think I could cope with mild disapproval on those terms.

Wouldn't it be nice to do it in real life and take it further? If I really piss someone off they have to buy me one of the gluten-free lemon drizzle cakes from the good deli in town, or a slice of g-f pear Bakewell tart from the bakery.

DrBlackbird · 29/08/2024 17:19

Aria999 · 29/08/2024 16:41

I don't mind swearing. I am still confused by the Biscuit though. I get that it's rude and dismissive but I don't actually know what it means.

Someone once replied to my post with just this and I was so confused I had my own post deleted and hid the thread.

I always thought it was a symbol to mean that your post ‘takes the biscuit’ but of a serious, strongly felt kind. Not necessarily a FU… but that could be just my personal interpretation!

dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/take-the-biscuit

ArabellaScott · 29/08/2024 17:22

Obviously it's one of these jam drop things.

lcakethereforeIam · 29/08/2024 17:22

I think the only answer to Biscuit is Brew, in a right back at ya sense. I always thought it was a supermarket dupe of a Fox's jam cream.

ArabellaScott · 29/08/2024 17:23

And here is the dark side of the Mumsnet mug emoji. Brew

3 questions for GC women
RedToothBrush · 29/08/2024 17:25

Datun · 29/08/2024 17:06

I think technically it's meant to mean something fairly mild like I disagree and probably won't be engaging further.with you.

But colloquially, it feels like someone's just given you the finger.

Edited

It's a passive aggressive here have a biscuit you because you are talking utter bollocks. I guess the sentiment is that if you have a biscuit you can't talk anymore. So giving a biscuit is essentially 'stfu' but nicer.

GailBlancheViola · 29/08/2024 17:26

Originally the biscuit meant no comment, it came from Gordon Brown refusing/failing to answer the What's your favourite biscuit? question on an MN web chat, I think he (or his people) advised MNHQ after the event that his favourite biscuit was a Jammy Dodger.

It then seemed to morph into a patronising Here have a biscuit/calm down emoji

It further morphed into an alternative to saying Fuck you in order to not to get deleted, however, you can be deleted for just posting the biscuit.

Who knows what it will morph into next.

ArabellaScott · 29/08/2024 17:27

The Evolution of the Biscuit Emoji on Mumsnet - a Quasi-political Forensic Linguistic Analysis.

There you go, Aston, there's a far more interesting PhD topic. You can have that for nothing.

DeanElderberry · 29/08/2024 17:27

however, you can be deleted for just posting the biscuit.

!!!!!!!

This place is truly full of wondrous surprises

DeanElderberry · 29/08/2024 17:30

Is there a biscuit version of the best quote from the best movie of all time?

"Double dumbass on you!"

RufusthefIoraImissingreindeer · 29/08/2024 17:48

The biscuit mean no comment

That's it...its mnhq original definition and certainly should not be a debatable offence

RufusthefIoraImissingreindeer · 29/08/2024 17:48

Deletable obviously 🙄

GailBlancheViola · 29/08/2024 17:49

On the swearing debate I do swear and quite a lot at times but there is a huge difference in swearing about something and swearing at someone.

Long may we be able to say something is a pile of fucking shite when it is and it is the most apt description of it.

RufusthefIoraImissingreindeer · 29/08/2024 17:49

cautiouslurker

💐

RufusthefIoraImissingreindeer · 29/08/2024 17:50

Why is removing healthy breasts covered on the NHS?

Surely it's cosmetic

Snowypeaks · 29/08/2024 17:52

GailBlancheViola · 29/08/2024 17:49

On the swearing debate I do swear and quite a lot at times but there is a huge difference in swearing about something and swearing at someone.

Long may we be able to say something is a pile of fucking shite when it is and it is the most apt description of it.

That's exactly it for me, too. I never swear at people. Unless they're on the telly/radio at the time.

RedToothBrush · 29/08/2024 17:53

RufusthefIoraImissingreindeer · 29/08/2024 17:50

Why is removing healthy breasts covered on the NHS?

Surely it's cosmetic

I have a friend who wanted a reduction on the NHS. She was refused. She was complaining of back pain and how it was causing her mental health problems.

She had to go private.

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