Statement on the gender critical movement and the far right

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https://x.com/GCAntiFarRight/status/1823790909462602205

"We, the undersigned, are deeply disturbed that populist messages particularly targeting Muslims have gained traction among significant numbers of social media accounts associated with the gender critical movement."
Read and sign our statement below.
https://gcantifarright.wordpress.com/2024/08/13/statement-on-gc-movement-and-the-far-right/

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Arse meet plate.

Hope all those signing it know who they handed over their details to, cos a brand new account and a WP site don't inspire confidence. Would be a great way of gathering people's details and then fucking them over.

The definition is from the statement. LWS isn’t mentioned. There’s no incitement to or justification of violence towards them. That’s quite a leap.

Exactly, don't people have the sense to do due diligence?

It's obvious they're talking about Kellie Jay Keen.

Hope all those signing it know who they handed over their details to, cos a brand new account and a WP site don't inspire confidence. Would be a great way of gathering people's details and then fucking them over.

Yes, that's why I haven't clicked on it. I'm sure I've got the general gist.

What is it about KJK’s output that makes you think they mean her?

When I left the thread last night no one had been able to attribute any tweets or facebook posts to any who is actively GC.

Lots of silly "I have seen on twitter someone say .. ) but no names.

So, even though I am prepared to believe it is true, in terms of this thread your posts are pointless. And it undermines what you say because you are just shit stirring, as the letter is.

Would it just be possible for those of you who are on twitter just stay there. It has always been in a cess pit. It it all about getting the most likes. And as the social media platform with the smallest number of users isn't about outreach it is actually about those desparate to be picked up by the main stream media.

And is now owned by a man who thinks the UK should overthrow the Labour government. And you want to preach virtue? Talk about 2 faced hypocrasy.

Just as the letter is. Fancy setting up an annonymous account to denounce by association people as being right wing racists, when this is exactly what they are doing.

The gutless swilling of the swamp with these assertions that are never evidenced as being true is exactly what this letter.

If you say if often enough in the twittersphere it becomes "the truth".

Wouldn't it be nice if FWR to go back to being what it once was, intelligent, well informed and researched exchanges.

Not all this whispering behind people's backs.

Appreciate lots of posts and didn't always pause to thank, so thanks.

But can I just say TinselAngel has been on fire.

But then - they are not consistent - none of them seemed to think we should judge the people at BLM rallies by the problems of the leaders, who were grifters and racists. Which is correct - most people who went to the rallies didn't care much about the leaders, they were there to make a statement on their own behalf.

Exactly. Or "anti fascist" marches run by the extremely dodgy Hope Not Hate or SWP. I don't tar all the women who went to those left wing protests with the people in the SWP who covered up rapes. Because that's not the reason they fucking went

"Wouldn't it be nice if FWR to go back to being what it once was, intelligent, well informed and researched exchanges."

This. I think this every time I come on the board now as there seem to be the same few posters taking the piss out of other women, shutting down any alternative views and refusing to engage with the substance of any argument.

Genuine request.

Can someone have the guts to post an actual example of a gc account commenting that the far right and / or tommy robinson has the correct analysis of the political situation in the UK (or GC women).

Because there's a long history of this, especially after her LWS event in Brighton a few years ago.

IwantToRetire I'm not sure that you can have it both ways ie asking people on Twitter to stay there then asking people to link to particular views on Twitter.

Try looking at TheFamousArtistBirdy (sorry I'm not sure that's her full name) or DJ Lippy's accounts. I haven't looked at them for a couple of weeks, but it was quite a speed at which they went from 'at least the right knows what a woman is' to 'Yaxley-Lennon has a point', great replacement theory and stolen election rhetoric.

There are a number of women who have said on this thread, and others, that they have seen content that they consider to be supportive of the far right. There are a number of women who have been uncomfortable with things they have seen posted on Twitter. If people like @IwantToRetire think they are lying them say that. And maybe outline what they think these women have to gain by lying.

Well, quite. Any hint of racism or the far right and KJK's supporters think it's about her. I wonder if her welcoming the far right when they were filming the Brighton LWS event under the rubric of 'everyone's welcome' is a factor in this?

So the message now appears to be "show us the twitter threads, but don't come here with your arguments, if you don't agree with a self appointed forum morality police, go to twitter instead.

What, that people come on here to stoke division, insult us, make trolling posts and talk bollocks? Never happens.

Just as we've never been called shills for the Xtian right, or Putin dupes, or Farage wives, or whatever.

It's all just slurs and smears as far as I can tell.

The funny thing is that TRAs think we're all the same, regardless of how many pompous open letters get written.

Both DJ Lippy and Famous Artist Birdy are working class women that have done a huge amount to advance women's rights in this area, and have received a lot of abuse for it. Never in a million years would I call these women part of the ' far right'. It's both laughable but also deeply chilling that women like this can be so carelessly labelled and castigated in this way.

think they are lying them say that

I am just saying that this assertions turn out not to be true.

When on poster kept going on about Wakefield, blah, blah, blah but would not show what the link was I checked it out.

And all it was that some LWS leaflets were in a shop near where TR was having a rally.

This is as stupid as the comment about KJK in Brighton, because in the crowd were some right wing supporters.

If you cant evidence what you are saying then I dont have to believe you.

Nor believe the assertion in this letter than somehow GC activists are all so politically silly they are being duped by the right wing.

There is no evidence of GC activists aligning with the far right or racists.

Do you remember the story of crying wolf?

This is what has happened here.

No one believes this.

It just seems a repeat pattern of trying to slut by inuendo for no other reason than to aggrandise themselves.

(And as the posts about KJK / LWS come from those unable to prove anything it just further contributes to the fact that this letter is just another virtue signalling. I bet they are all messaging each other about how brave and pure them have been. Silly school girls)

@IwantToRetire who is telling untruths now? The Wakefield artist took the platform with "Tommy Robinson," that surely suggests that she agrees with him or are you suggesting that she just happened to be singing there and didn't realise she was part of a racist meeting?

That is a really silly attempt to misunderstand.

You have endlessly posted how this is true because you have seen it.

However your comments about Wakefield show that you hadn't seen it. You made it up.

But as you are relying on twitter as you source of information, please at least show that you think it has value by actually giving a link to a tweet that shows anything you have said is real and not just something you have made up in your head.

Where is your evidence.

What is going on in side your head is not evidence.

Dear oh dear, you go out of your way to misrepresent what I said.

I referred to the LWS leaflets as this was originally the complaint. That LWS had actively participated in the Wakefield event.

I said (admittedly it was last night) that so far only 2 celebrities said to be GC had done something dubious.

Do try and keep up.

The methods of attempting to stifle debate are coming straight out of the tra playbook, which I find interesting. It's also the method used by those pulling the strings of the C 18 thugs.

re who or why the letter and the suggestion that it was a man.

I looked at the web site where only one person has commented, and so the next comment, was to ask them did this mean they wanted their name added to the letter. ie someone who is actively part of this letter.

And that was Darren Johnson - second signatory on the letter.

The point about the story of crying wolf was there was a wolf, but nobody would believe there was in the end. Now what does that remind me of