Statement on the gender critical movement and the far right

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https://x.com/GCAntiFarRight/status/1823790909462602205

"We, the undersigned, are deeply disturbed that populist messages particularly targeting Muslims have gained traction among significant numbers of social media accounts associated with the gender critical movement."
Read and sign our statement below.
https://gcantifarright.wordpress.com/2024/08/13/statement-on-gc-movement-and-the-far-right/

Turning up to vocally support Tommy Robinson is not the same as having your own views published in a paper or magazine viewed by some as right-wing. If everyone followed the principles you seem to be espousing, we would all live in echo chambers and only ever hear or read the views of people who agree with us.

The world is not divided simplistically into Total Left-Wing Goodies and Total Right-Wing Baddies.

People have the right to go to any fucking protest or rally or concert or talking event they want. There is no purity test on who attends what.

I was not expousing any principles apart from people having those rights. Which will soon be completely obliterated in the UK. If you can't see that then I'm not really sure what I can tell you.

I think Aja knows what's what.

I am on Twitter/X and follow a fairly wide range of feminists and commentators,

The algorithms definitely started showing me very dodgy tweets pushing the narrative of small boat immigrants being here to oppress all women/being violent etc. and I saw tweets on the day Southport happened spreading the Moslem/small boat rumour which was left for hours before any more info about the suspect came out.

And Tommy Robinson tweets now appear retweeted or in my "for you".

I'm highly sceptical of what I read on TwiX, but it's easy to see people getting drawn in, especially when the BBC/mainstream media are still reporting men as though they're women. Even rapists.

I don't think it's a high percentage of GC people at all but that link is definitely there.

I'd love to be able to deny this altogether, but truth is important.

They are using the term far right not just right wing. They not just saying we're not Tories.

From the very early days "Terfs" have been labelled far right, fascists, Nazis, including all those who've signed the letter.
It really saddens me to see the left trying to claw back credibility by hurling the same far right accusation at other women without any credible evidence,other than that they don't share their political perspective.
Look they're the real Nazis were cuddly right on gender critical feminists.

Particularly when members of the group being condemned have taken far more risks than some in their ivory towers.And been very effective in their tactics.

Does anyone actually know who's signed it? It's hardly making a statement if no one knows you've done it

People have the right to go to any fucking protest or rally or concert or talking event they want.

And other people have the right to criticise them & distance themselves from them if they want. Why does it always seem like only one 'group' have 'the right' to do what they like?

"It really saddens me to see the left trying to claw back credibility by hurling the same far right accusation at other women without any credible evidence,other than that they don't share their political perspective."

and again

we do not mean ‘anyone who criticises the left’ or conservatives in general. We mean anyone who justifies or incites the violent scapegoating of immigrants and minoritised communities, including the violent and criminal anti-Muslim leader who calls himself Tommy Robinson and those who support or defend him.

And had to google Yaxley-Lennon to find out who that was - why not just say it's Tommy Robinson,
Thank you for that. Why is everyone using a different name for this man - or has he legally changed it recently?

Normally when you sign something it ends up being presented to someone of importance - who will receive this document, and what is to be gained by it after they have received it? New prisons? Education centres? Benefits sanctioned?

Can someone point me to the GC movement (with link), and do they accept vegans? I ask because vegan protests can get pretty nasty, just ask McDonald's customers. Or are vegans too close to far right principles?

Just musing out loud.

That's how algorithms work. I block really objectionable posters. But you have to remember it happens both ways. Left wing sympathisers will get the full fascists are at the door. Secret funding by Zionists etc,
Don't ask if others are being lead astray ask if you are.

I'm spending an awful lot of time fact checking but it does broaden your mind in the end, hopefully

So what? I fundamentally disagree with her views as to nationalism, but have highly respected her stance regarding women’s rights.

She seemed to, when she attended one of Tommy Robinson events, handing out leaflets from let women speak. She gave every appearance of recruiting his followers to that cause.

We should all only give leaflets to people who agree with us. Like a sort of chain letter and eventually you get your own leaflet back.

Hardly, but I, for one, would not want a group of knuckle dragging ex C18 thugs using women's rights issues as an excuse to promote violence against people from the Indian sub continent.

So we can give leaflets to people who disagree with us but only within certain limits?

Of course they have that right, and should continue to have that right. I don’t think anyone is saying they shouldn’t.

People sharing some of their views should also have the right to dissociate themselves from some other of their views.

To those posters who appear to find it not only acceptable, but desirable, to align themselves with Tommy Robinson and his band of racist right wing thugs, to attend and legitimise the "protest", do you recognise why others of us are not happy with all gender critical women being seen in the same light?

Do I have to align myself with anyone though? Can't I just stand with those who think sex cannot be changed? Or do I have to stand with those who are left, vegan, just say no to oil, climate changers, house insulators, anti whaler type peeps? What if I like eating meat - will I be banished? 🤔

I think you're addressing people who aren't on this thread?

And those that signed it, and that get income from right wing sources are hypocrites.

I was addressing those people who were critical of those who signed the letter, while appearing to support those gender critical people who were at various right wing, racist marchers.

She can go to whatever event she wants to. That's the fundamentals of a democratic society.

Indeed she can, but I presume she then accepts that others are able to judge that action.

You'd better just get over it, as other people are allowed other opinions. Knowing sex is a concept that exists doesn't mean anything other than that.

There is no gender critical movement.

Do you try to make all your posts personal? Or just those who suggest that certain behaviours may be racist.

And she has the right to respond.

If you have an issue, go and respond to her tweets. This two faced backstabbing is so fucking boring. You go and bloody steward a load of events with rabid men threatening and screaming at you and see how the difference in policing is before you judge her on her 'lived experience'.