Wes Streeting addresses puberty blockers decision -excellent response

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https://x.com/wesstreeting/status/1812435914473295927

Noticed that the same people who seem to suggest PBs are life saving are also the ones that say parents should be kept out of the loop in schools. How are these young people going to get these life saving drugs without their parents knowledge?

He sounds as if he is imploding psychologically. I have always thought he seemed to have a tendency towards delusions of grandeur. He is sounding very unwell now.
As for parents tipping ashes outside number ten, that is an absolutely insane suggestion.

I haven’t rtft but let Labour deal with this ‘heat’ they keep going on about, it’s not from women. It’s entirely in line with the sex class doing it.

They should have thought about that before creating the GRA last time.

You're asking for consistency and coherence in a movement which is inherently self-contradictory.

For example, this (from a late transitioning male): "Children need to have their puberty blocked so that they never become fully sexually mature adults. I'm so glad I had my children before transitioning."

They want to break relationships between parents and children. Presumably the "solution" is giving more parental power to the state.

Yes more power to the state, who will delegate their powers to private businesses called 'clinics', including private clinics with online services, who may or may not be in contract with a part of a new business-led arm of the remodelled NHS, overseen by a regulator who has training from Stonewall.

No do not ban him. Remember this is the TRAs top lawyer. Let him grift as much money as he can only to fail in court utterly. He has never won a gender case in fact he sets them back.

Every time he rants he makes random people think. "Maybe JKR was right".

This is not unhinged - this is the logical result of what they really think.

Operation Let Them Speak has never worked better.

Private clinics need insurance, and while insurance companies young activists might cover their social media in trans symbols, the people who set premiums are very interested in evidence and risk.

Private UK clinics will be much more cautious now, even without legislation.

And about that evidence. If you we're absolutely certain that prescribing puberty blockers was life saving, wouldn't you want to prove it?

You couldn't make it up ...

And about that evidence. If you we're absolutely certain that prescribing puberty blockers was life saving, wouldn't you want to prove it?

Affirmation-only research? Actual data need not apply.

Whilst I love operation let them speak, The thing that concerns me is that he's now adding to the risk of suicide by suggesting that will happen.

I was reading a long thread this morning about the correlation between reported suicides in the media and an increase of suicides locally, including the specific method.

He is suggesting to parents and children that this will happen. The parents become more anxious and militant (esp thanks to social media) which adds more pressure to the child, whilst the child begins to think more black and white about life and death. 'PBS are the only option.' 'I have no life without them' etc.

On that score he needs banning from Twitter as he is a risk to children.

Aforementioned thread

x.com/scottishjenbel/status/1813564385501352229?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

I agree with WarriorN.
The Samaritans have been advising on the reporting of suicide for decades. This is their standard advice for the media when reporting. Some basic principles that an emotionally incontinent lawyer currently doing so much damage should be aware of:

https://www.samaritans.org/about-samaritans/media-guidelines/10-top-tips-reporting-suicide/

Reddit continues to push vulnerable young people to overseas or unknown suppliers of puberty blockers and hormones

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1e662m7/comment/ldr4c9c

Going to email this thread to Wes Streeting's office so he's aware of the loopholes.

There are far worse sub Reddits, there is one dedicated to DIY hormones and trans medication

Re-posting my own comment. How dare these utter fools talk about the ashes of children?

I think we're currently watching full narcissistic collapse with some activists. They don't care if vulnerable children are sacrificed to protect their own egos.

So has JM put his own child on puberty blockers (and is afraid he was wrong) or wants to (and is worried he won't be able to).

Ovarit are reporting that Reddit shut the DIY hormones sub down yesterday (which is good news, I hope - unless the discussion moves to somewhere else that isn’t as easily monitored)

https://ovarit.com/o/GenderCritical/579880/apparently-the-trans-diy-subreddit-has-been-banned

It would be in breech of the Online Safety Act if I'm not mistaken...

The Online Safety Act 2023 (the Act) is a new set of laws that protects children and adults online. It puts a range of new duties on social media companies and search services, making them more responsible for their users’ safety on their platforms.

The Act will give providers new duties to implement systems and processes to reduce risks their services are used for illegal activity, and to take down illegal content when it does appear.

The strongest protections in the Act have been designed for children and will make the UK the safest place in the world to be a child online. Platforms will be required to prevent children from accessing harmful and age-inappropriate content and provide parents and children with clear and accessible ways to report problems online when they do arise.

The Act will also protect adult users, ensuring that major platforms will need to be more transparent about which kinds of potentially harmful content they allow, and give people more control over the types of content they want to see.

Ofcom is now the independent regulator of Online Safety. It will set out steps providers can take to fulfil their safety duties in codes of practice. It will have a broad range of powers to assess and enforce providers’ compliance with the framework.

Providers’ safety duties are proportionate to factors including the risk of harm to individuals, and the size and capacity of each provider. This makes sure that while safety measures will need to be put in place across the board, we aren’t requiring small services with limited functionality to take the same actions as the largest corporations. Ofcom is required to take users’ rights into account when setting out steps to take. And providers have simultaneous duties to pay particular regard to users’ rights when fulfilling their safety duties.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/online-safety-act-explainer/online-safety-act-explainer

It would apply to Reddit content in the UK directing people in the UK to drugs not legally available to them otherwise.

BTW isn't Briana Ghey's Mum supportive of increasing measures to prevent online harms?

Funny isn't it?

Just out..a review of the data about suicides at the gender services at the Tavistock by
@ProfLAppleby
, suicide prevention specialist. The data does not support the claim that there has been a large rise in suicide in young gender dysphoria patients at the Tavistock. Specifically criticises the Good Law Project and how this has been discussed on social media this week.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/review-of-suicides-and-gender-dysphoria-at-the-tavistock-and-portman-nhs-foundation-trust/review-of-suicides-and-gender-dysphoria-at-the-tavistock-and-portman-nhs-foundation-trust-independent-report

Was Prof. appleby the person who issued a plea a few months ago literally begging organisations to stop weaponising suicide around dyphoric children? I think there was a thread but the search function on MN is not working for me.

Yes I think she was. She pleaded with people to be more responsible. There really should be some way to hold them to account.