Jess Phillips appointed a minister to focus on tackling violence against women and girls and domestic violence.

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Jess Phillips has been appointed to the Labour government as a minister, focusing on tackling violence against women and girls and domestic violence.

The Labour MP has been a vocal campaigner on the subject, and has become known for reading out a list of all the women killed by men in the UK every year on International Women's Day in parliament.

Ms Phillips had the role of shadow domestic violence and safeguarding minister from 2020 to 2023 under Sir Keir Starmer but resigned over the party's stance on the Middle East conflict in November.

She was one of 56 Labour MPs - including eight frontbenchers - to vote in favour of an SNP motion calling for an immediate ceasefire in the Middle East.

This defied the Labour whip, and so Ms Phillips had to step aside.

More ... https://news.sky.com/story/jess-phillips-made-minister-following-frontbench-resignation-over-middle-east-13175726

That's interesting!

Did you just come in this thread to stir up drama?

100%

I'd challenge anyone on their views of being 'disappointed' by her abilities.

The amount pettifog created when someone supports women + trans rights. 🥱

It is very good news. Many dislike Jess Phillips, she is outspoken and says things I disagree with too. Newsflash women get to be mean and do stupid things, because they are human beings. Having Jess onside is a bonus for the pro-woman side.

Remember though Jess is one of the few who Rosie Duffield has said was her friend and ALWAYS stood by her and spoke up for her when most refused to back her. Rosie's judgement has to take priority here because she is one of the few who put everything on line consistently.

Also Jess went on a Labour Women's Declaration platform in September 2023 and supported it in public at the fringe conference in a room with lots of cancelled people. Remember 99% of Labour party members were too scare to do this [even though secretly probably about half the party agrees with LWD]. The video is here Jess is on at 5.00 mins

Yes it took her time to get there and yes she struggled with being too nice [which everyone does] but she stood up and did something. She is a huge asset to gender crits in the war that will go in within the party. Alongside Shabana and Diana Johnson we have powerful voices inside Labour. This doesn't mean Labour are not going to screw things up. It means there is a real chance to fight back.

Women make up six in seven rape victims because men want to oppress and control us by putting us at risk of pregnancy and because we are, as a class, physically weaker and so easier to overpower.

Abortion is a women's rights issue because women get pregnant and men don't.

Most DV is male-on-female because men want to control the people with the uteruses in order to control if and when those men have babies. FGM is also motivated by this and women cosign on it for fear that their daughters won't wed.

This is the case, and was in the 1980s, the 1880s, 1780s, 1980s BCE...

Nope. I came on because Jess Phillips is an excellent appointment and I wanted to talk about that. But the echo chamber of the GC crowd around here makes me want to scream. You’re all utterly insane. And wrong. And it’s incredibly frustrating at the moment not to be able to jump on a politics thread without your cliche shite being trotted out.

Let's pretend this is true - Jess, and her work will still be a success.

So talk about how she's an excellent appointment then. No one is stopping you.

There are lots of existing threads and every opportunity to discuss other issues by creating your own threads.

Why is it that some never do this but just come on any old thread and raise red herrings.

Cant help but feel its main purpose is to deny potential productive exchanges and in the instance of this thread, what appears to be some good news.

Nobody is obliged to respond to obvious click bait.

I dont even particularly like J ess Pillips, let alone Starmer, but it is useful to be able to discuss seems to be good news, and how we can build on that.

Without getting too good vibey about it, it would be such a relief to be able to follow the issue of a thread through the potential it raises for us as women in day to day life.

I look forward to seeing many new threads raising the endless topic of what is or is not feminism.

This is about the practical reality of women's lives, and the continuing, never ending horror of male violence against women.

Show some respect.

Yep. You’re right. So what about infertile women. What about women who have had a hysterectomy. Are they still women? Do they still experience discrimination based on still looking like they could get pregnant. What about trans women who look like they could also get pregnant? Trans women who can be raped. What about very masculine presenting women? Are they still women? Even if they don’t look like women?

Its nuanced. The whole thing. But you all reduce it down to how female presenting you are.

I had no idea this was the origin behind the whole "what is a women" line that I've seen (exclusively on MN) here.

Have you got Google - happy to copy and paste who the ministers are for you? She's the real one.

Okay well why don't you talk about that then instead of ranting that we don't all share your opinions. Be the change you want to see?

We're insane for knowing that women are oppressed on the basis of their sex and that men can't become women?

Are you on glue?

If you don't believe that feminists know what a woman is, is Sir Robert Winston enough of an authority for you?

@MaidOfAle - that venn wouldn't pass in a secondary school paper. The only reference I can find on that is some dated Canadian blogger from 2019.

It's time for this again

"bring your evidence".

What is 'female presenting'? Sounds like sexist bs to me.

I'm female because of my body, not my clothes.

Why would you question whether infertile women are women?

Yes, trans women can be raped, same as men can be raped. But most sexual violence is biogical male on biological female.

Regarding regressive sexist men, who you referred to in an earlier post, how do you think these men know which humans to rape/ abuse/oppress?

Your arguments are all over the place.

It's nothing to do with "presenting". Little girls whose vulvas are mutilated don't "present" as anything. Neither do female foetuses, yet sex-selective abortion still happens.

Under patriarchy, infertile women are deemed to be broken and face their own form of sex-based discrimination because of that.

I have yet to encounter a transwoman who was 100% convincingly female-seeming. The voice usually gives it away. Likewise women who seem male, the voice gives it away. Many times have I been "sir'd" only for the speaker to do a double-take when I reply. Even if a transwoman passed completely, they didn't endure girlhood, but boyhood. And, importantly, they chose to be perceived as female: women didn't.

So pleased Jess has got this role, think she’s brilliant

No we don’t.

Men rape women.

Men get to do what they want.

We’re happy to do battle.

You know what we are, we know what we are, if you don’t like the Not Kind feel to it all, talk to the bastards with penises. They’re the problem.

That venn diagram is a well-known meme used to explain philosophical differences between three groups of people. It's not a journal paper.

Hmm, a Labour MP who isn't hostile to gender critical feminists is given a really important ministership that could make a huge difference to women's and girls' lives and we have two disruptors on the thread?

Why is that? Why don't the board monitors want us talking about this?

Ageism never goes out of style with some. The last acceptable prejudice it seems.

Do any of you have sons? How do you reconcile this pure hatred of all men with that?

I’m ok with that. You can generalise about men and women. I’m happy to generalise too.

Where did anyone say "all" men?

Fuck off with the NAMALT. The MRA vibes are strong from you.