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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

This Never Happens

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QuietlyGC · 09/07/2024 12:02

I've name-changed for this post.

Can someone point me in the direction of This Never Happens please, as I can't find it? I've had "that" argument with a friend who called me an idiot for believing that it does indeed happen and I'm doubting myself. In particular - and I am sure I haven't made this up - does anyone remember an incident in a prison where TW were housed that had to give out the morning-after pill to female inmates?

I'm feeling really shit after the argument. I know I'm not the first and won't be the last to be in this position. I'm so done with it all.

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QuietlyGC · 09/07/2024 12:07

@zibzibara - thank you so much, that's why I couldn't find it, I had got the name wrong! And there is a link to the TW in prisons too. Perfect. Now I just need to find the courage to send them to my friend and risk stirring the pot again.

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zibzibara · 09/07/2024 12:12

Glad to help!

QuietlyGC · 09/07/2024 12:15

ParrotPirouette · 09/07/2024 12:11

Glinner has a substack called This never happens
https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/this-never-happens

Thank you @ParrotPirouette Just seeing Karen White's face has made me shudder. I've told my friend about Karen. She just doesn't believe me!

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QuietlyGC · 09/07/2024 12:28

Looking at the SubStack I know what she will say - that these criminals were men and have identified as women after. Are there any examples of TW that have committed the crimes as women (that have been called TW and not actually women in the reporting). Sorry, I am asking a lot. I am autistic and struggle to make myself understood so I want to be as armed as I can be with facts!

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Riapia · 09/07/2024 13:33

‘This never happens’ never happens so regularly that it’s beyond doubt that it never happens.

QuietlyGC · 09/07/2024 13:40

Riapia · 09/07/2024 13:33

‘This never happens’ never happens so regularly that it’s beyond doubt that it never happens.

Seemingly not, unfortunately. It seems there are still a lot of people who believe it's us nasty GC women making it all up.

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RainWithSunnySpells · 09/07/2024 13:47

QuietlyGC · 09/07/2024 12:28

Looking at the SubStack I know what she will say - that these criminals were men and have identified as women after. Are there any examples of TW that have committed the crimes as women (that have been called TW and not actually women in the reporting). Sorry, I am asking a lot. I am autistic and struggle to make myself understood so I want to be as armed as I can be with facts!

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13117149/Transgender-woman-26-GUILTY-murdering-random-stranger-night-Dont-F-Cats-inspired-killing-putting-pet-blender.html

ArabellaScott · 09/07/2024 13:52

QuietlyGC · 09/07/2024 12:28

Looking at the SubStack I know what she will say - that these criminals were men and have identified as women after. Are there any examples of TW that have committed the crimes as women (that have been called TW and not actually women in the reporting). Sorry, I am asking a lot. I am autistic and struggle to make myself understood so I want to be as armed as I can be with facts!

https://news.sky.com/story/andrew-miller-jailed-for-20-years-for-abducting-and-sexually-assaulting-girl-in-scottish-borders-12983829

Andrew Miller jailed for 20 years for abducting and sexually assaulting girl in Scottish Borders

Andrew Miller, also known as Amy George, identifies as a transgender woman and is said to be in the process of transitioning. The judge previously described the "abhorrent crimes" against the girl as the "realisation of every parent's worst nightmare"...

https://news.sky.com/story/andrew-miller-jailed-for-20-years-for-abducting-and-sexually-assaulting-girl-in-scottish-borders-12983829

DworkinWasRight · 09/07/2024 13:52

QuietlyGC · 09/07/2024 12:28

Looking at the SubStack I know what she will say - that these criminals were men and have identified as women after. Are there any examples of TW that have committed the crimes as women (that have been called TW and not actually women in the reporting). Sorry, I am asking a lot. I am autistic and struggle to make myself understood so I want to be as armed as I can be with facts!

Reduxx has a ton of these stories.

QuietlyGC · 09/07/2024 14:10

Thank you @DworkinWasRight - I will take a look.

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AstonScrapingsNameChange · 09/07/2024 14:19

QuietlyGC · 09/07/2024 12:15

Thank you @ParrotPirouette Just seeing Karen White's face has made me shudder. I've told my friend about Karen. She just doesn't believe me!

Karen White was all over the news. Your friend could easily Google the incident rather than insisting that you're making it up.

It doesn't sound to me that they are very open to seeing what is going on around them.

Good luck OP, the mangling of language in the media has made it really difficult to discuss these things.

QuietlyGC · 09/07/2024 14:39

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 09/07/2024 14:19

Karen White was all over the news. Your friend could easily Google the incident rather than insisting that you're making it up.

It doesn't sound to me that they are very open to seeing what is going on around them.

Good luck OP, the mangling of language in the media has made it really difficult to discuss these things.

They're not open to discussion at all. Karen was dismissed as one bad apple. Isla Bryson was dismissed as Isla wasn't eventually housed in the women's prison - it didn't happen so no harm done.

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zibzibara · 09/07/2024 14:43

Fenlandia · 09/07/2024 14:31

I should add this to the main thread, but this one was from last week

https://www.middevonadvertiser.co.uk/news/courts/transgender-arsonist-jailed-after-hate-campaign-702533

(In case your friend tries what a friend of mine did, and say "well Karen White was a few years ago stop using that to demonise transwomen who would never hurt a fly")

Miss Zoe Kuyken, defending, said Moore has five adult children and caring responsibilities for his 82-year-old mother. He will lose his job as a heavy plant operator if he is given an immediate sentence.

Some honesty near the end of that article. Probably unintentional but interesting to see they likely wrote the article referring to him as a him but changed it to be all nice and affirming and womanly later.

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 09/07/2024 15:04

There used to be a very informative site called transcrimeuk.com . No ‘hate speech’ or libel or anything wrong. Simply lists of male criminals who claimed to be women, with brief details of their convictions.

The account has now been suspended. I won’t waste time wondering why.

ArabellaScott · 09/07/2024 15:06

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 09/07/2024 15:04

There used to be a very informative site called transcrimeuk.com . No ‘hate speech’ or libel or anything wrong. Simply lists of male criminals who claimed to be women, with brief details of their convictions.

The account has now been suspended. I won’t waste time wondering why.

Archived here.

https://archive.ph/transcrimeuk.com

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 09/07/2024 16:22

ArabellaScott · 09/07/2024 15:06

Oh thanks, Arabella! It would be a shame to lose that honest record.

There were vast numbers of violent crimes, often bizarre and, perhaps not surprisingly, in many cases sexual.

NancyDrawed · 09/07/2024 16:43

QuietlyGC · 09/07/2024 12:28

Looking at the SubStack I know what she will say - that these criminals were men and have identified as women after. Are there any examples of TW that have committed the crimes as women (that have been called TW and not actually women in the reporting). Sorry, I am asking a lot. I am autistic and struggle to make myself understood so I want to be as armed as I can be with facts!

6 foot 5 inch Katie Dolatowski attacked a 10 year old girl and covertly filmed a 12 year old in supermarket toilets. Went to a female jail IIRC

IdealHomeExhibition · 10/07/2024 04:23

ParrotPirouette · 09/07/2024 12:11

Glinner has a substack called This never happens
https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/this-never-happens

This is absolutely sickening.

CoalTit · 10/07/2024 04:53

I'm feeling really shit after the argument. I know I'm not the first and won't be the last to be in this position. I'm so done with it all.
Sympathy and solidarity, OP. You're dealing with people who have been very effectively brainwashed by a cult.
I'm amazed at how passionately people will argue for the ideology when they clearly know very little about it, but have been feed a line for years by authority figures, in which I include the mainstream media.
My mother and sister believe in the existence of human hermaphrodites, and a friend with a degree in international politics revealed the other day that she believed that a so-called sex-change operation actually changes a person's sex, and that it wouldn't be long before doctors can enable men to give birth.
I explained as gently as I could, but I think her ego was a little bruised, so we're staying away from the topic for a while. However, it made me see how the frequent use of terms such as "sex-change operation" and "transition" deceive and delude anyone who isn't paying attention.

FrancescaContini · 10/07/2024 06:52

Thanks for resurrecting this thread / this info. It’s always useful albeit shocking to be reminded that yes, there are men out there who “present as” women 🙄 in order to gain access to women’s spaces to harm girls and women.

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