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Waterstones come out as GC and fire TRA for social media post

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woman2womanmeetswomanparrish · 08/07/2024 18:14

Fantsatstic news, Christina Dalcher has sucessfully managed to get this TRA fired from their job at Waterstones for X comment.

https://x.com/TillyLovesBooks/status/1810337926850445453?t=WABH0ieBQdnUtaQL5FVlyQ&s=19

Waterstones come out as GC and fire TRA for social media post
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lcakethereforeIam · 08/07/2024 19:24

I, briefly, felt sorry for here for losing her job. Now I still feel sorry for her because of the utter blindness she has to her own bigotry. All the evidenceless accusations she that makes, she is guilty of. Every single one.

I'm so tired of this. The lies, slander, hyperbole of the tras. Ffs I wish they'd wake up, open their eyes and see themselves.

RufustheFactualReindeer · 08/07/2024 19:26

Lovenothate · 08/07/2024 19:21

Sorry but you’re celebrating a trans phobic author getting someone fired for calling her out on her hate?!

Who are you talking to?

RufustheFactualReindeer · 08/07/2024 19:27

And whats she said that’s transphobic….it doesn’t say on those tweets

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 08/07/2024 19:32

Lovenothate · 08/07/2024 19:21

Sorry but you’re celebrating a trans phobic author getting someone fired for calling her out on her hate?!

I don't think it's actually about the issue tbh.

If a labour supporting employee tweeted that they were going to go into work, and rip up and throw away that new Boris Johnson book that's out later this year, or if a Tory supporting employee said it about the Keir Starmer biography, I would think that was an equally stupid thing to tweet, and I'd expect Waterstones to take a similarly dim view of it.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 08/07/2024 19:34

Lovenothate · 08/07/2024 19:21

Sorry but you’re celebrating a trans phobic author getting someone fired for calling her out on her hate?!

Here we go

IsadoraQuagmire · 08/07/2024 19:36

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DoIWantTo · 08/07/2024 19:36

@Lovenothate gender critical does not equate transphobic. I think trans people should be accepted for who they are, I think they should be entitled to the same rights as males and females. I also believe you cannot change your biological sex and that accepting a trans person is not the opposite sex does not mean you deny they exist. It means you accept they’re a trans person and should be entitled to their own spaces, their own sports, their own hospital wards.

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DoIWantTo · 08/07/2024 19:39

@RufustheFactualReindeer shes not said anything transphobic, she’s just publicly gender critical. Believing in biological sex is now classified as being transphobic in the eyes of the TRAs

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 08/07/2024 19:42

DoIWantTo · 08/07/2024 19:36

@Lovenothate gender critical does not equate transphobic. I think trans people should be accepted for who they are, I think they should be entitled to the same rights as males and females. I also believe you cannot change your biological sex and that accepting a trans person is not the opposite sex does not mean you deny they exist. It means you accept they’re a trans person and should be entitled to their own spaces, their own sports, their own hospital wards.

This is mine, and pretty much every GC person I know's position but do you know what, I'm done explaining this to posters like @Lovenothate, and all the others who plop down a 'you're all hateful transphobes' with no back up, no receipts, no reasoning or valid argument.

If they don't have the intelligence or capacity to get that this position of wanting sex based spaces and sports doesn't equate to being transphobic then a) that's a them problem and b) I pity them and how they get through life. Truly. One JKR obsessed poster the other day when I asked if they had read ANY of JKR's essays and they said 'no, I don't have to'. I mean just fuck off.

Hoppinggreen · 08/07/2024 19:43

Lovenothate · 08/07/2024 19:21

Sorry but you’re celebrating a trans phobic author getting someone fired for calling her out on her hate?!

no, we are celebrating some muppet who seems to have a Naziesque policy on authors that don't promote her bullshit ideology and who is stupid enough to brag about destroying company property.

lonelywater · 08/07/2024 19:43

Lovenothate · 08/07/2024 19:21

Sorry but you’re celebrating a trans phobic author getting someone fired for calling her out on her hate?!

yep. get used to it.

RufustheFactualReindeer · 08/07/2024 19:45

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BodyKeepingScore · 08/07/2024 19:47

Surely Waterstones hasn't come out as GC? Simply as a company that upholds a social media policy for their employees and will take appropriate action towards those who breach said policy?

Allie47 · 08/07/2024 19:48

I'd imagine someone at Waterstones has finally looked at sales figures and which books sell and have been wondering why they're not getting a bigger slice of that pie. It wouldn't take long on twitter to have a very good idea, it's a good place to start to weekend out those who are costing you money. I've seen a number of tweets by various Waterstones staff and we've all seen evidence of books being hidden. This seems to be changing, they are a business after all 🤷‍♀️

WickedSerious · 08/07/2024 19:50

Lovenothate · 08/07/2024 19:21

Sorry but you’re celebrating a trans phobic author getting someone fired for calling her out on her hate?!

🙄

EveDeservesBetter · 08/07/2024 19:54

I wouldn't stand for GC publishers ripping up trans activists books either for what it's worth

And it does not need saying but, of course, they don't.

DeepGreenLeaves · 08/07/2024 19:55

I couldn't work out what had happened from the OP, so I clicked through onto Tilly's post. My phone started (silently, thank goodness) playing her weepy poor-me video. I mean... Who does that? I feel like I don't need to know anything more about this woman. When did it become normal to film yourself making a weepy sad-face speech and broadcast it to the world? She looks to be a grown adult... How does she go about life, thinking that is a normal way to carry on?

/Missing the point

Citrusandginger · 08/07/2024 19:56

Oh golly. Have Waterstones discovered that some terfs quite like books?

Rightsraptor · 08/07/2024 19:58

I once tried to read Shon Fae's book and within five minutes I felt like tearing it up.

But I didn't.

InvisibleBuffy · 08/07/2024 20:02

Yes, I wouldn't say Waterstones is GC. From what I can see, they fired an employee for making public statements that she intended to rip up books and otherwise make it difficult for readers to buy certain authors because she didn't like the authors' views.

As others have said, I'd expect Waterstones to sack her if it were the other way around too (e.g. if she were GC and claiming to rip up trans authors books).

It's only really remarkable because trans activists have been getting away with this kind of behaviour for so long that they don't even see what's wrong with it.

Luio · 08/07/2024 20:03

Watersones aren’t coming out as anything. They are just firing their employee who plans to destroy their merchandise. Considering how many political biographies they sell, I imagine they don’t really want their staff to go on an ideological book destroying rampage.

AmandaHoldensLips · 08/07/2024 20:03

Snivelling into the camera while calling an author a hateful bigot?
Yep. That's going to work...

LakeTiticaca · 08/07/2024 20:11

Brilliant!! Well done Waterstones.
It's long past time that big companies started to kick back against these threats and start remembering who their core customers are 😄

woman2womanmeetswomanparrish · 08/07/2024 20:12

thestudio · 08/07/2024 18:42

I can't see Rina's original tweet, can anyone transcribe?

I wonder if they are basing that decision on WORIAD.

Here's the original tweet that Christina Dalcher complained about and got her fired for, she deserved everything she got.

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