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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Neil Gaiman accused of sexual assault

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WandsOut · 04/07/2024 18:06

www.yahoo.com/entertainment/sandman-writer-neil-gaiman-denies-142813982.html

Story still unfolding in the news

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ArabellaScott · 23/08/2024 09:03

It's all deep-fake AI invention.

taylorswift1989 · 23/08/2024 15:49

We're going to need another thread soon.

Can't believe he's still said nothing! He'll have to come out of the woodwork at some point. What a horrible little cowardly creep he is.

VictorianBigot · 23/08/2024 17:10

https://www.reddit.com/r/neilgaimanuncovered/comments/1ezeoj7/apologist_blog_post_on_neil_by_one_of_his_mates/

'sex is a funny thing at the best of times'

It's a total minefield mate. Who knew penetrating a new employee young enough to be your granddaughter while she's having a bath, or coercing your tenant into fellating you in exchange for not terminating their tenancy could be construed as sexual assault. Men can't do right for doing wrong, the world's gone mad.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 23/08/2024 17:49

But it's all just so complicated these days, VB, now that women are allowed to say no to things. Men just can't keep up. And besides, everyone's forgetting the really important thing - Neil wore a leather jacket. That makes him an artist and outside the normal rules.

notathenabutcassandra · 23/08/2024 22:23

Jesus Christ. 51 days. What an arrogant cunt.

Neil Gaiman accused of sexual assault
annejumps · 23/08/2024 22:34

VictorianBigot · 23/08/2024 17:10

https://www.reddit.com/r/neilgaimanuncovered/comments/1ezeoj7/apologist_blog_post_on_neil_by_one_of_his_mates/

'sex is a funny thing at the best of times'

It's a total minefield mate. Who knew penetrating a new employee young enough to be your granddaughter while she's having a bath, or coercing your tenant into fellating you in exchange for not terminating their tenancy could be construed as sexual assault. Men can't do right for doing wrong, the world's gone mad.

Well that is certainly something. Neil got girls to read sci-fi/fantasy, remember, everyone...!
I appreciate the fact that a commenter immediately brings up Cosby.
Ohh and he's not helping himself in comments. Bringing up "Rawlings."

annejumps · 23/08/2024 22:39

My comment is in moderation 😂

NoBinturongsHereMate · 23/08/2024 22:59

Judging by his responses to comments he's not very bright, has little understanding of laws around rape and assault, and even less understanding of the actualities. And he's definitely not helping matters.

SidewaysOtter · 23/08/2024 23:13

VictorianBigot · 22/08/2024 16:21

What will be next? He tripped and fell?

Sagittarius was in the wrong moon phase.

VictorianBigot · 23/08/2024 23:15

NoBinturongsHereMate · 23/08/2024 22:59

Judging by his responses to comments he's not very bright, has little understanding of laws around rape and assault, and even less understanding of the actualities. And he's definitely not helping matters.

It reads to me like a lot of projecting. He’s not so much defending Neil as defending his own guilty conscience. He admits to treating women like shit and, reading between the lines, sexually assaulting them (‘have you never misread someone’s signals or made an unwanted pass at someone?’) but he’s a Nice Guy really and regrets stuff so it’s ok, we’re all human, we all make mistakes. Let’s be kind and gentle.

VictorianBigot · 23/08/2024 23:20

‘igorgoldkind on August 23, 2024 at 12:37 pm

I approached Neil when the rumours became allegations and then Tortoise started running them. I gave him my sympathy and support as I had recently been falsely accused of not a sexual assault, but criminal assault nonetheless by a reply disturbed woman ho had been making overtures in my direction which I had rejected.’

Confused
annejumps · 23/08/2024 23:29

In his comments too he talks a lot about himself and his history with women, while chiding someone that his history with women is not the commenter's business. Well, you're the one who wrote a post no one asked for and jumped into the comments, my guy

hihelenhi · 23/08/2024 23:52

Blimey, is he the best that Gaiman could do?

LaLoba · 23/08/2024 23:57

‘believe me, you’re no Neil Gaiman’.
No, I’m not. I’m not a narcissistic predator who treats people like things, because I have a conscience.
Yuk.

MrsWhattery · 24/08/2024 00:14

Oh... I used to know that apologist! (Through work, long time ago) I don't want to say too much in case outing but this doesn't surprise me.

VictorianBigot · 24/08/2024 11:40

Christ, NeilUncovered have found that Igor rubbish coming up as a sponsored post on Tumblr

https://www.reddit.com/r/neilgaimanuncovered/comments/1eznr7o/tumblr_sponsoring_an_ad_that_links_to_a_blog_post/

Neil Gaiman accused of sexual assault
NeverDropYourMooncup · 24/08/2024 12:03

VictorianBigot · 23/08/2024 23:20

‘igorgoldkind on August 23, 2024 at 12:37 pm

I approached Neil when the rumours became allegations and then Tortoise started running them. I gave him my sympathy and support as I had recently been falsely accused of not a sexual assault, but criminal assault nonetheless by a reply disturbed woman ho had been making overtures in my direction which I had rejected.’

Confused

I am not entirely convinced that the ramblings and rantings of a clearly predatory man is the reputation-rescuing resource that the Gaiman Marketing Complex requires.

Effective way of highlighting the issue, though - 'I wonder whether these allegations are true? <click> Oh. He has a small cohort of incels and abusers vociferously declaring that it's just the same as when they were attacked by hysterical females obsessed with their manly attractiveness and strangely voicing this in terms of 'Get this stalky, abusive sex offender away from me and any other woman or girl unfortunate enough to be targeted by him'. Just the same.'

Iamiams · 24/08/2024 12:09

Is series 3 of Good Omens going ahead? That will be awkward. And possibly why there’s so little in the mainstream.

StainlessSteelMouse · 24/08/2024 14:51

I was amazed to discover that he was still active on Tumblr fairly recently. And not only because I was surprised that anyone is still on Tumblr...

I'll admit to having a mildly irrational prejudice against men in their 60s who wear leather jackets. Paul Mason is like that; Eamonn McCann, who's now over 80, is like that. Dude, you're old; it would be more dignified to admit that.

But a man in his 60s who wears a leather jacket and hangs out on Tumblr talking to young girls?

hihelenhi · 24/08/2024 15:04

StainlessSteelMouse · 24/08/2024 14:51

I was amazed to discover that he was still active on Tumblr fairly recently. And not only because I was surprised that anyone is still on Tumblr...

I'll admit to having a mildly irrational prejudice against men in their 60s who wear leather jackets. Paul Mason is like that; Eamonn McCann, who's now over 80, is like that. Dude, you're old; it would be more dignified to admit that.

But a man in his 60s who wears a leather jacket and hangs out on Tumblr talking to young girls?

And trying to get them to send photos of themselves in baths reading his books, which was a phase he had 😬

StainlessSteelMouse · 24/08/2024 15:12

hihelenhi · 24/08/2024 15:04

And trying to get them to send photos of themselves in baths reading his books, which was a phase he had 😬

For a man who writes books heavily marketed to teenage girls, he may as well have been walking round with a massive neon sign saying "I'm a creepy old perv"

VictorianBigot · 24/08/2024 15:13

Bath fetishist

VictoryOrDeath · 24/08/2024 16:41

Iamiams · 24/08/2024 12:09

Is series 3 of Good Omens going ahead? That will be awkward. And possibly why there’s so little in the mainstream.

I imagine it will, but with less NG wrote this fanfare.

IBelieveInFerries · 24/08/2024 18:51

I enjoyed his books on my early 20s. I was a fan, my brother too.

But I never realised about the Tumblr stuff or that he engaged so much with his fan base.

But, did none of his agents / handlers / management etc ever day to him, "look this is really unprofessional". "When signing autographs, please dont single out young women". Or. "it's not a good look to ask for your fans to send you bath pics". Or "if you employ people, best to set up formal contracts rather than make vague promises".

I have been in the workforce for well over 20 years, and at any point in my career, if I had come across someone behaving like NG, I would have identified it as outside the norm and inappropriate.

I have come across highly influential colleagues who act inappropriately (not sexual abuse) but almost groom people into going on with their behavious, whether it be bullying or something else. Maybe that's what happened. But even in those cases, there has been a recognition that it's not right. A level of uncomfortableness.

I wonder if those in his circle just shrugged their shoilders and went, "oh look, it is just Neil being Neil".

They are filming The Sandman at the moment,which is Netflix. I wonder of NG is too much of a cash cow for Netflix and Amazon for them to take notice.

Saucery · 24/08/2024 20:13

VictoryOrDeath · 24/08/2024 16:41

I imagine it will, but with less NG wrote this fanfare.

As he was totally riding on the coattails of Terry Pratchett since the book was published I imagine they will concentrate on that aspect.

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