Smear appointment reminder with a Mx

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Have a routine smear booked at my local surgery and just received a reminder text saying it will be with Mx Firstname Surname.

I have no idea if this person is a biological woman or a biological man.

Can I call and ask?

Why not then “women, including transmen”

I had the experience of a male gynaecologist doing a smear once only. It was horrendously painful, he was brutal. NEVER again.

The receptionist is probably baffled by your questions.

I'm pretty sure she would know what you meant if Kerry WAS trans.

More likely she means she obviously doesn't have knowledge of what went on in Kerry's childhood but as far as she knows Kerry looks like a woman, talks like a woman, walks like a woman and is a woman. Short of stripping Kerry naked I don't think the receptionist can do more for you.

Mx is prob just an automated system thing.

I’m not saying they shouldn’t however person born with a womb is female are they not ?
the NHS have totally got themselves in knots and their woke nonsense is offensive.
If these people want to be called her or him good luck to them but if they feel they are a him then this is wrong when being called for a female check.
man = womb is not fact
No wonder children are getting confused and the world come to that. No wonder the NHS is in trouble

Could be a non-binary id’ing woman? I can see the use of Mx in that case as it is gender-neutral. Wouldn’t a trans-id’ing man be more likely to want to be called Ms.?

I would absolutely walk out too.

Well it could be used by a non-binary male as well.

It may say "women" on there but that doesn't refer to women - given the addition, it refers to people with a fluffy pink ladybrain. I, too, would be pissed off as that's not how I identify. Would be different if it stated "women including transmen", or the same using an asterisk and footnote explains their definition.

Perhaps we should use this back at them - “I only want my smear test conducted by someone with a womb thanks”.

That's due to him being crap then, not the fact that he's a man
I've had a female doctor be rough before and I've never thought "never again" at being seen by a woman.
Obviously you're entitled to request a female doctor but their sex has nothing to do with whether they're a good or gentle doctor or not.
You can get that from both.

Of all places you’d think a fucking dr’s surgery knows about biology.
Id go if it’s a man I’d walk out.

Of course it does!.
"Given the addition" - refers to trans men, ie those who have been born biologically female.
Where are you getting "fluffy lady brains" being added too (by which I assume you mean trans women? It doesn't mention them at all.)

Its more skill and technique than whether male/female/other. I've had different male GP's/gynaes abroad who did smears, but also female there and here in the UK. In general, I've found men gentler. I've had some smears from female Dr's and nurses which were questionable in terms of roughness and care.

Yeah this is my nans point of view. Always get told the story of her having a load of gawking students looking at her vagina when she had a massive tear after a shoulder birth.

However a shit load of women do care and would like to be treated with dignity and privacy. We are not pieces of meat and shouldn’t just go along with it because they are wearing a white coat - if we don’t want to

I was hurt very badly by a male gynae two years ago. (Was supposed to see a woman, but she was off sick.)

At the follow-up, I was treated by the woman gynae. Letter gave me the all-clear (had polyps and possibility of endometrial cancer) but was told they'd want to see me again if any more bleeding.

Bleeding again this year. Saw (female) GP. She referred me. Told her what happened and she specified I wanted to see a woman gynae. 2 wk turnaround.

6 wks later, no letter. Phoned surgery. Told to phone Gynae Dept.

Receptionist: "The waiting list for PMB [post-menopausal bleeding - I had to ask] is at least 16 weeks. It'll probably be much more, because you asked for a woman doctor." (I thought I detected a note of disapproval, but I might be wrong.)

In the end, my appointment has come in for 12 weeks after the referral.

Ask them what does 'Mx' mean and see if they can answer that!

Yep I had an internal by consultant and I felt so so violated afterwards. The nurse was stood by him. He had massive hands and I was so upset going home.

Don't patients have the right to request a same sex nurse/doctor? And so in order to grant patients that right, the surgery would therefore have to know the sex of the staff.

Well, given that some people seem to think that certain humans can actually change their sex they might just think that claiming someone is female, even though they're actually biologically male, makes them female.

Yes, if the person you're seeing turns out to be trans then, if you feel able to, walk away.

Years ago I turned up for a mammogram appointment to find that the person doing the procedure was a man.

I really didn't want a man I didn't know handling my breasts and it made me feel incredibly uncomfortable. There wasn't even the offer of a chaperone.

Years later and I'm still annoyed with myself for not feeling brave enough to say I wasn't prepared to have it done by a man.

The first name isn't exactly reassuring either. I know 3 male Keri's (spelt that way). It's not that uncommon as a male name, in Wales at least.

I guess that's right. I've only ever seen one female gynae. She was good. The first male gynae I saw was excellent. The second hurt me badly. The third traumatised me.

I figure that at least a woman has a better chance of knowing what it feels like if someone cuts you in that area without anaesthetic.

I mean why do men make a career out of Gynea 🧐

Then you should be opposed to wording like "people with a uterus" or "people with a cervix" as all are known to reduce overall uptake of screening. However since the missed screening tends to be women in the bottom third, particularly those learning disadvantaged or disabled, minority women with English as a second language etc they apparently don't matter to those diligently pushing dehumanised language.

Its perfectly impossible to include trans men and women in the relevant calls without excluding large chunks of the bottom third. "Women and trans men" or "Men and transwomen" both include trans men and women without excluding the bottom third. Oddly the advertising for health care rarely addresses people with prostates - its nearly always "men".

Have you googled the name? Facebook and LinkedIn may come up, with photos.

I asked my male gynae abroad this exact question. His mother died giving birth to his younger sibling due to lack of suitable maternity care. That is why HE because a gynacologist.

Or Dr, presumably.

It's a red herring anyway. Presumably if they had chosen to be a Miss no one would have questioned it, but the person still could be transgender.