Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lia Thomas out of Olympics after losing legal battle

42 replies

Fenlandia · 12/06/2024 17:30

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/article/2024/jun/12/transgender-swimmer-lia-thomas-out-of-olympics-after-losing-legal-battle-swimming -

Article written by Sean Ingle who has been good on this issue so it's safe to read without harming your blood pressure.

Seems to be a bit of a technicality here if you read closely, but good that World Aquatics were prepared to argue their case about the effects of male puberty on male athletes who wish to compete in the female category.

Transgender swimmer Lia Thomas out of Olympics after losing legal battle

Transgender swimmer Lia Thomas has lost her legal case against World Aquatics and any hopes of making next month’s Paris Olympics

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/article/2024/jun/12/transgender-swimmer-lia-thomas-out-of-olympics-after-losing-legal-battle-swimming

OP posts:
Redshoeblueshoe · 12/06/2024 17:30

Good news, thanks for posting

JuneIsBustinOutAllOver · 12/06/2024 17:41

Thank you for the link.

“However, in a 24-page decision, the court (of arbitration of sport) concluded that Thomas was “simply not entitled to engage with eligibility to compete in WA competitions” as someone who was no longer a member of US swimming.”

As I understand it, Lia is not a member of US Swimming so Lia can’t take place in World Aquatics events, so can’t qualify for the Olympics.

“World Aquatics insists it is doing all it can be inclusive and has introduced an “open” category for transgender swimmers. However, plans to debut it at the Berlin World Cup last October were cancelled after no entries were received for any of the 50m and 100m races across all strokes, which were due to take place alongside male and female races.”

Feministwoman · 12/06/2024 19:45

in order to get legal standing, Lia would have had to swim and qualify as a male in the US Olympic trials this weekend, then go on to challenge the World Aquatics ruling that Lia cannot compete in Women categories.

He'd never have qualified in the Men's races!

CaptainOliviaBenson · 12/06/2024 20:02
The Simpsons GIF by MOODMAN

Ha ha!

DracoDormiensNumquamTittilandum · 12/06/2024 20:08

Good 👏🏼

AtrociousCircumstance · 12/06/2024 20:11

Great news.

TinySmol · 12/06/2024 20:11

Good.

elgreco · 12/06/2024 20:16

Good. He makes me fucking furious.

He alone should provide enough evidence that trans belief is so harmful for women.

How can anyone see him and look at his times and listen to the women that had to change with him and still think non believers are " unkind".

Runningupthecurtains · 12/06/2024 20:24

Oh dear what a pity never mind.

Thomas isn't going to the Olympics because Thomas isn't an Olympic standard athlete. What Thomas needs is for a village swimming gala to identify as the Olympics then he might make the standard.

334bu · 12/06/2024 20:30

Female swimming is for female swimmers and unfortunately Lia is male. He should try out for the male team if he wishes to compete at the Olympics.

QAOPspace · 12/06/2024 20:45

Score one for sanity

TicklishLemur · 12/06/2024 20:55

Brilliant news. I’m only sad for the young women who lost places in the past due to the decision to let a middling male swimmer cheat. Not to mention the indecent exposure and voyeurism in the locker room. How was that ever allowed??

ThatAgileGoldMoose · 12/06/2024 20:58

Oh dear Lia. There's always the transgender class my dear. In a class of one you'll be sure to come first.

TicklishLemur · 12/06/2024 21:03

ThatAgileGoldMoose · 12/06/2024 20:58

Oh dear Lia. There's always the transgender class my dear. In a class of one you'll be sure to come first.

Funny how none of them want to use it. Almost like it’s not really about the human right to compete in elite sport at all…

Kendodd · 12/06/2024 21:06

JuneIsBustinOutAllOver · 12/06/2024 17:41

Thank you for the link.

“However, in a 24-page decision, the court (of arbitration of sport) concluded that Thomas was “simply not entitled to engage with eligibility to compete in WA competitions” as someone who was no longer a member of US swimming.”

As I understand it, Lia is not a member of US Swimming so Lia can’t take place in World Aquatics events, so can’t qualify for the Olympics.

“World Aquatics insists it is doing all it can be inclusive and has introduced an “open” category for transgender swimmers. However, plans to debut it at the Berlin World Cup last October were cancelled after no entries were received for any of the 50m and 100m races across all strokes, which were due to take place alongside male and female races.”

So this open category, nobody entered, I'm a terrible swimmer, I might try to enter and win a world medal. 😁

TicklishLemur · 12/06/2024 21:11

Kendodd · 12/06/2024 21:06

So this open category, nobody entered, I'm a terrible swimmer, I might try to enter and win a world medal. 😁

Just say you’re non-binary, no commitment to anything required 😂

Helleofabore · 12/06/2024 21:38

Result!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/06/2024 21:40

So this open category, nobody entered, I'm a terrible swimmer, I might try to enter and win a world medal.

Sounds perfect! Go for it

momtoboys · 12/06/2024 21:40

Brilliant news!

Redshoeblueshoe · 12/06/2024 21:52

Kendodd · 12/06/2024 21:06

So this open category, nobody entered, I'm a terrible swimmer, I might try to enter and win a world medal. 😁

I'm a bad swimmer, but if there's only 2 of us, that's one gold, and one silver. Any bad swimmer want to join us for the bronze ? I'm prepared to take the bronze

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 12/06/2024 22:16

Redshoeblueshoe · 12/06/2024 21:52

I'm a bad swimmer, but if there's only 2 of us, that's one gold, and one silver. Any bad swimmer want to join us for the bronze ? I'm prepared to take the bronze

I've a tendency to develop cramp when swimming but I'm game as long as the lifeguards are in attendance and paying attention.

Lia Thomas out of Olympics after losing legal battle
Mumofteenandtween · 12/06/2024 22:21

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 12/06/2024 22:16

I've a tendency to develop cramp when swimming but I'm game as long as the lifeguards are in attendance and paying attention.

I’m a reasonable swimmer. Can I identify as a rubbish swimmer so you let me in and then identify as trans and so win gold. 🥇

EwwSprouts · 12/06/2024 22:23

Runningupthecurtains · 12/06/2024 20:24

Oh dear what a pity never mind.

Thomas isn't going to the Olympics because Thomas isn't an Olympic standard athlete. What Thomas needs is for a village swimming gala to identify as the Olympics then he might make the standard.

😂😂

LizzieBennett73 · 12/06/2024 22:30

I would imagine that Lia is pretty furious about this....

However for women everywhere, at last common sense appears to be coming to the front again.

Calling · 12/06/2024 22:49

Good news! Thanks for posting 😃