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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
anothernamitynamenamechange · 05/06/2024 00:31

@JohnofWessex Look I created a thread on AIBU about Male victims of male violence. It started of a bit rough (my fault. I made the title too provocative and worded my first post really badly so I think people thought I was trolling) but more people are already posting there. I do agree with you that raising awareness of the different ways men can be victims of violence matters. I have a son. But I don't think talking about it on this thread will help because its a different issue. But if you do want to discuss it its there. More people will see it because more people visit AIBU.

FOJN · 05/06/2024 00:57

JohnofWessex · 04/06/2024 23:26

The point is that the womens movement has done a very good job in highlighting the issue of male on female - or child violence.

BUT we havnt looked at the subject in the round, that is to say male on male violence or for that matter the role of women in violence either as perpetrators or facilitators.

When we have some idea of the problem in total the question is then what do we do to tackle it, how do we stop people becoming violent, what do we do to perpetrators, to prevent them reoffending or if that doesnt work or seem likley to work to safeguard potential future victims

Yes women have worked very hard to raise awareness about an issue which affects them.

Do you think we should take the lead in raising awareness about male on male violence too?

Women discussing VAWG does not prevent men discussing male on male violence.

How many murders of men do you think will be prevented if we make women as perpetrators as significant component of a discussion about male on male violence?

Swamphag · 05/06/2024 07:25

What is it with some people? They can't help themselves but start what-about-the-men ing on a thread about vawg?

I feel like I've been shouting about men's violence against women and girls forever. Do I care that men and boys are also being harmed by men? Yes, but guess what? Not my fucking problem. Let the men deal with that one because I'm not everyone's fucking mum.

And then we also have the "it's not transwomen, it's men!" <<geneflucts to the holy pride flag>> Go look at the MoJ stats for transwomen in prison for violent and sexual crimes. It far outweighs the general prison population. So either transwomen are more of a danger to women or violent men use a trans identity to access victims. Which is it? Either way male people need to keep (and be kept) out of women's spaces.

We're being killed at a rate of 2-3 a week and we can't talk about it without some twat rocking up to shout "squirrel!"

I might need more coffee.

BeelzebubsGargoyle · 05/06/2024 07:51

Thelnebriati · 04/06/2024 23:54

''Men and violence against women: Some men think that if they themselves are not perpetrating domestic or sexual violence against women, the problem has nothing to do with them. But it does.''

''A consistent predictor of men’s use of domestic and sexual violence is their perception of peer support: the extent to which they think that the men around them condone, support, and themselves use violence against women.
Male peer support is a key risk factor for perpetration.''

https://archive.ph/UiBd7

That is useful information.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 05/06/2024 10:05

And as that awful Spanish hotel rape case (among others) showed, it's not just a perception of peer support. There is widespread actual peer support.

WomenStuff · 05/06/2024 16:32

Maddy70 · 04/06/2024 21:06

Millions are yes and millions more are not.

Those men aren't likely to attack you in a busy changing room. These men are usually your husband's, fathers, siblings etc
That are invited into homes and safe spaces ...

Violent males attack the women they have access to. Traditionally that would be relatives in the home but now abusive "husbands, fathers and siblings" are told they have a right to be in any female spaces so long as they declare special feelings.

And it shouldn't need pointing out that these public spaces aren't always busy.

Have you used shopping centre toilets during a quiet spell? Usually located up escalators and down long corridors, through several fire doors.

Have you ever stayed on a hospital ward at night?

Have you ever been a member of a cheapo unstaffed 24 hour gym with basic changing facilities?

Now these males have plausible deniability to be in any single sex female space whenever they want, ready for an opportunity to present itself.

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