The Scottish Greens are revolting - thread 2

[ArabellaScott]

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5057592-the-scottish-greens-are-revolting

First thread above.

They show no signs of improving....

Local parties raise there own funds and pay their own deposits.

And David Mellor, regardless of whether you shared his political views, was otherwise a reasonably competent MP, and generally acknowledged as a good secretary of state for Culture and the Arts.

Anyway aside from that I'm very happy for The Greens, Alba and the SNP all to squabble over as many seats as they want. It increases the likelihood of none of the separatist parties winning it.

This is the declaration that got members expelled. There's a link on that page to sign the petition if you feel moved to do so.

https://scottishgreenwomensdeclaration.scot/

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/8635079f-431b-4553-ad9b-7518c3859177?shareToken=78dd64e0935af95dedec56f6421e0078

Article including interviews from expelled members.

These are people who would be an asset to any party or organisation. Thrown out by cultist idiots who have no clue

Many of them are members of many years' standing. Kick out the elders, replace with impressionable youngsters.

Interesting they were so willing to talk to The Times. Hoping it is a sign one or more will take legal action.

Meanwhile the Scottish Greens bungled an attempt to call for a Republic by breaking obvious rules on being impartial.

Lorna Slater rebuked after breaking parliamentary rules over anti-royal family video
The Scottish Greens co-leader has been forced to delete a video off social media of her taken at the Scottish Parliament where she called for an end to the monarchy after it was found to have breached the rules.
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/lorna-slater-rebuked-after-breaking-32875768

The Greens are targeting Glasgow. Unusually brave of them to go to the City of the Glasgow Tactical Feminists.

Greens to stand in all Glasgow seats says Patrick Harvie
https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/24344878.greens-stand-glasgow-seats-says-patrick-harvie/

these people are proper mental-genuinely certifiable. It will be interesting to see how many votes (outside of the tin foil hat laager) they get now their utter detachment from reality becomes more widely known.

Harvie's a Glasgow man.

People are still going to vote for them despite everything because of the environment. Which would be understandable if the Greens actually did anything for the environment.

I dare say some will do just that. However, anyone else remotely clued up about the current state of the greens can hardly fail to notice that they have taken over by complete nut jobs. Who could have thought, even say five years ago that the correct answer to any question could possibly be Patrick Harvie or Maggie Chapman? I sometimes think the like of Sophie have to be deep cover GC operatives-they could not be more effective propaganda for our side if they tried, such is their batshit mentalism.

Sadly most people are not at all clued up about politics. Why else would the Lib Dem’s get away with somethings as bland as ‘we will save the nhs’ or Labour ‘cut nhs waiting times’ without saying how?

I'll be avoiding Glasgow then if the Greens will be prancing about more than usual in the lead up to the election

Harvie talking nonsense again. You don't take sexism seriously Harvie.

Patrick Harvie has defended his party’s decision to expel a number of members for putting their names to a statement reading “sex is a biological reality”.
According to reports in Holyrood magazine, 13 activists who signed the Scottish Green Declaration for Women’s Sex-Based Rights were kicked out following complaints to the internal Conduct and Complaints Committee.
One of those kicked out was Topher Dawson, who has been a member for a decade.
He told the magazine: “They seem to think that anyone who signed the declaration is transphobic. I have friends who are transgender women.
"It’s simply that to stretch the definition of ‘woman’ to include people who are not women makes a mockery of all the sex-based protections that have been hard-won by women, for women.
“There is no space to even discuss it. Anyone who even attempts to raise the subject is hounded out.”

Mr Harvie was asked about the mass expulsion while talking to journalists at the launch of his party’s general election campaign in Glasgow.

“I think it's really important to be a political party that thinks equality and human rights seriously,” he said.

“I reject the idea that most political parties seem to follow that says, you know, if you say something racist, that's a disciplinary matter, but if you say something homophobic or transphobic, then that's just a special matter of conscience.
“Greens are not like that. We take the same principled approach to all these aspects of equality and we take that seriously.”
Patrick Harvie launches Scottish Greens election campaign
Herald of Scotland
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24344683.patrick-harvie-launches-scottish-greens-election-campaign/

I missed the first thread so apologies if this has already been posted
Sophie Sparkles had had yet another name change

Yes. And I notice his wife has been cleaning up some twitter posts. Of course there are screenshots and archives.

Genuine query - can a member of the public complain about discrimination by a political party? Is this covered by any MP standard of behaviour?

good question, TheBanffie.

https://greens.scot/Code-of-Conduct

You could get in touch and make a complaint to the SGP.

If a party has discriminated, the EHRC has this advice:

'Political party
A complaint to the Chair (or equivalent) of the political party may be made if electoral conduct is:
• factually incorrect
• damaging to good relations
• makes a false statement about the character and conduct of a candidate
• incites hatred for persons with a protected characteristic
• breaches the Party’s own code of conduct.

Local authority
Any complaints about the behaviour of existing elected members can be referred to the local authority’s monitoring officer, who is responsible for the complaint if there is an allegation that a member has breached the local Code of Conduct.

Police
Electoral conduct which is likely to stir up racial or religious hatred or hatred because of sexual orientation should be reported in England and Wales to the Chief Constable or other senior police officer and in Scotland to the police. The test for incitement offences is set high, so before making a complaint it is a good idea to consult local community groups and councillors to see if there is a consensus on whether the conduct is likely to incite hatred or lead to other offences. Even if material does not meet the criminal threshold for incitement offences, the police may still decide to discuss the complaint with the perpetrator.'

https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/sites/default/files/equality-and-human-rights-law-during-an-election-period.pdf

• incites hatred for persons with a protected characteristic

I'd imagine broadcasting a song called 'tread on a terf' counts. Or a picture that says 'fuck terfs'.

Karen Wiles, Head of Legal & People is the Monitoring Officer within Aberdeenshire Council

https://induction.aberdeenshire.gov.uk/councillors/

Useful info thanks Arabella 👍

Sophie's posts from the weekend. Sophie seems to be hovering as close to Maggie as is possible. Why hasn't Maggie endorsed her fellow Green Aberdonian?

NEWSFLASH - Sparkles suspended from Scottish Green pending investigation.

I can't believe the the Scottish Greens would suspend a member for living their authentic self. Unless he was a man and was lying all along. How can anyone take them seriously after this?

So once again. The TERFS were right. Who knew!

Megan JustSayMan

AGP @SophieMolly_SG is getting kicked out the @scottishgreens.

Not only this but has participated in mass reporting of GC accounts for speaking.

#WomenWontWheesht

When you're too porn addicted for even the greens

Once again Scottish Women triumph. Who won the sweepstake?

Time to celebrate, but also consider who do we take down next. Election season has just started. Someone really needs to get to hustings and ask the Scottish Greens why the party is so transphobic? Why kick out members for saying what the exec agree with that Sparkles was a man.

Ooh I'll have to check the dates for the sweepstake.

Shocked, I am.

Time to celebrate, but also consider who do we take down next

It is not ‘taking down’ but rather giving sunlight to their activities, letting people see their awful behaviours. Show exactly what the Greens are promoting.