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KJK is standing against Lloyd Russell-Mole in the General Election

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BoreOfWhabylon · 23/05/2024 14:20

Grin https://www.youtube.com/live/vHudcvW0bSQ?si=kj-pX6z_ioL6l3nj

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https://www.youtube.com/live/vHudcvW0bSQ?si=kj-pX6z_ioL6l3nj

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DrSpartacularsUltraFeminism · 26/05/2024 13:54

If you are campaigning for women's rights and your starting point is that transgenderism is rooted in misogyny (be it internalised or externalised) then it logically follows that you will dismiss the claims for specific rights of, and protections for, transgenderists on the basis that they are in direct opposition to your own principles and values.

I wouldn't want to give a job or rent out my house or a room in my home to a misogynist either, however they identify.

BackToLurk · 26/05/2024 14:06

BezMills · 26/05/2024 13:16

Be interesting to see how often and to what extent LRM shows us his misogynist rage at KJK.

Operation Let Him Froth

He’s under no obligation to debate her. Hustings aren’t a given. Someone needs to organise them. Not all candidates need to be invited. And candidates can choose not to attend.

AdamRyan · 26/05/2024 14:25

DrSpartacularsUltraFeminism · 26/05/2024 13:54

If you are campaigning for women's rights and your starting point is that transgenderism is rooted in misogyny (be it internalised or externalised) then it logically follows that you will dismiss the claims for specific rights of, and protections for, transgenderists on the basis that they are in direct opposition to your own principles and values.

I wouldn't want to give a job or rent out my house or a room in my home to a misogynist either, however they identify.

Well yes, I'm sure you don't.
Some Christians famously feel they don't want to engage with gay people. It is illegal to act like that though.

BezMills · 26/05/2024 14:30

BackToLurk · 26/05/2024 14:06

He’s under no obligation to debate her. Hustings aren’t a given. Someone needs to organise them. Not all candidates need to be invited. And candidates can choose not to attend.

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KJK has preternatural abilities of remote triggeration, in both space and time dimensions. She's like Peroxide Doctor Who!
I think she'll be winding thon man up already... before she's even said a word.

EasternStandard · 26/05/2024 14:34

BezMills · 26/05/2024 14:30

KJK has preternatural abilities of remote triggeration, in both space and time dimensions. She's like Peroxide Doctor Who!
I think she'll be winding thon man up already... before she's even said a word.

Ha probably

Sloejelly · 26/05/2024 14:38

BezMills · 26/05/2024 14:30

KJK has preternatural abilities of remote triggeration, in both space and time dimensions. She's like Peroxide Doctor Who!
I think she'll be winding thon man up already... before she's even said a word.

She certainly manages it with a couple of posters on here!

EasternStandard · 26/05/2024 14:39

Sloejelly · 26/05/2024 14:38

She certainly manages it with a couple of posters on here!

I was thinking that too 😬

DrSpartacularsUltraFeminism · 26/05/2024 14:39

AdamRyan · 26/05/2024 14:25

Well yes, I'm sure you don't.
Some Christians famously feel they don't want to engage with gay people. It is illegal to act like that though.

That's not comparable. The existence of one does not impact the other.

SinnerBoy · 26/05/2024 15:21

AdamRyan · Today 13:12

She also openly says she's transphobic (see video I linked above) which is straight away going to alienate a large proportion of the population.

I note with interest that you chose a few words, without the context of those few words were.

AdamRyan · 26/05/2024 15:26

SinnerBoy · 26/05/2024 15:21

AdamRyan · Today 13:12

She also openly says she's transphobic (see video I linked above) which is straight away going to alienate a large proportion of the population.

I note with interest that you chose a few words, without the context of those few words were.

I just linked the clip - not my video. But if someone say they are transphobic, and then also says transphobic things (like the rent/job stuff) - then surely the conclusion is clear?

AdamRyan · 26/05/2024 15:28

DrSpartacularsUltraFeminism · 26/05/2024 14:39

That's not comparable. The existence of one does not impact the other.

It's directly comparable. The EA exists to make discrimination against certain groups illegal. In part I'm sure so that it doesn't become the state's problem to house/financially support certain groups because they are discriminated against. Trans people are one of those groups.

SinnerBoy · 26/05/2024 15:57

Her point was that since everyone and everything, including transw, are transphobic, then she probably was.

I yes, I do think that she blundered, by saying that they should be kept of of jobs and accommodation.

AdamRyan · 26/05/2024 16:07

Hmm.
I've seen enough of her to be pretty clear myself on her views. I don't know why they get explained away so much.

BezMills · 26/05/2024 16:07

I agree @SinnerBoy , I didn't agree with her there.

On the other hand, look at her estimate of the number of British Women with Penises (zero) vs Kiers Fetcher-Dervish's (35,000) so yanno, swings and roundybouts.

ETA : long walk off a short Kier didn't specify how many of the women had two or more penises... so he should probably clarify there

OldCrone · 26/05/2024 16:12

AdamRyan · 26/05/2024 14:25

Well yes, I'm sure you don't.
Some Christians famously feel they don't want to engage with gay people. It is illegal to act like that though.

Misogynist isn't a protected charateristic.

Sloejelly · 26/05/2024 16:13

AdamRyan · 26/05/2024 14:25

Well yes, I'm sure you don't.
Some Christians famously feel they don't want to engage with gay people. It is illegal to act like that though.

Which Christian are those?

NoWordForFluffy · 26/05/2024 16:19

Sloejelly · 26/05/2024 16:13

Which Christian are those?

Rip Smh GIF

Famous ones? Or infamous ones?!

Maybe dead ones...

Signalbox · 26/05/2024 16:19

OldCrone · 26/05/2024 16:12

Misogynist isn't a protected charateristic.

It is but only when you dress it up in a cheap wig and frilly knickers.
👨 + 👗 + 👠 = PC

AutumnCrow · 26/05/2024 16:26

Sloejelly · 26/05/2024 16:13

Which Christian are those?

Maybe it's about the icing of the cake case in Northern Ireland?

I understand that the court held that people in the United Kingdom could not legally be forced to promote a message they fundamentally disagreed with. The case became known in the British and Irish media as the 'gay cake' case.

https://www.supremecourt.uk/cases/uksc-2017-0020.html

Lee (Respondent) v Ashers Baking Company Ltd and others (Appellants) (Northern Ireland) - The Supreme Court

Case details

https://www.supremecourt.uk/cases/uksc-2017-0020.html

NoWordForFluffy · 26/05/2024 16:32

Adam said it was illegal, where the bakers were found to have acted legally, so it can't be that. 🤷‍♀️🤔

NoWordForFluffy · 26/05/2024 16:35

I wonder if there are any instances a bit more recently? Going back that long is scraping the barrel somewhat!

AdamRyan · 26/05/2024 16:54

Not really.
Cases like that are why we have the laws. It shows what people will do if we don't.

Cases like Maya Forstater/bakers also are important to show how the law prevents discrimination and protects people with reasonable views.

That's why I think moves to get rid of the Equality Act are dangerous.

NoWordForFluffy · 26/05/2024 17:07

I've not seen anybody campaigning to repeal the EA, just amend it. It's the GRA people want to repeal.

I think the country was a very different place when the B&B discrimination took place. That's why I want a more recent case, to show recent examples of it happening. I don't think it's the law preventing further instances, in the main, just a more tolerant society.

Signalbox · 26/05/2024 17:17

AdamRyan · 26/05/2024 16:54

Not really.
Cases like that are why we have the laws. It shows what people will do if we don't.

Cases like Maya Forstater/bakers also are important to show how the law prevents discrimination and protects people with reasonable views.

That's why I think moves to get rid of the Equality Act are dangerous.

Cases like Maya Forstater/bakers also are important to show how the law prevents discrimination and protects people with reasonable views.

It’s not doing a very good job of preventing discrimination atm. Every other month there’s seems to be a new case crop up. I think the rot runs deep and it’s going to take a lot of time to undo the harm caused by the spread of misinformation by the likes of Stonewall.

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