General Election 4 July 2024

[IwantToRetire]

Heard it on the radio.

Newspapers yet to report.

(2) Remind me again who brought in the Gender Recognition Act, making men legally women.

Back soon to finish what they started

Thrilling

I think there's zero chance of Starmer being ousted if he wins a decent overall majority. I can only see it strengthening his position.

If, after all the predictions, he fails to win an overall majority and has to go cap in hand to the Lib Dems, SNP etc then yup, he's toast. It doesn't seem likely as things stand though.

Oh of course, can focus on Larry - another positive!

Larry the Cat
@Number10cat

I don't get to vote in the general election, but I do have to live with whoever you elect. No pressure.

Posted at 7pm today
https://x.com/Number10cat/status/1793343386285432975

Heaven knows why we need a change. Great campaign slogan. 14 more years please.

Things change. Laws that were brought in years ago may no longer be fit for purpose or can be used in a way that wasn't foreseen.

Eg. Thatcher closed the mines:1980s this was bad...in the light of climate change, not so much.

North Sea Oil: new licences bad due to climate/good for energy security/better than importing oil/gas from elsewhere where emissions are worse plus transport emissions etc... can be viewed many ways

We need to look at where we are now and what needs changing now, and the recent record...plus manifestoes and what they say and more importantly what they are not saying

I also worry that in the last 7 years the Tories changing party leader so often has got the public used to the idea and so Labour getting rid of Sir Quiche Starmer after using him to secure an election win wouldn’t attract the criticism and opprobrium it might once have.

Heaven knows why we need a change. Great campaign slogan. 14 more years please.

But it wont be a change will it.

After all it isn't what the anarchists like to say "whoever you vote for the Government gets in" it is more like "the public gets the politicians it deserves".

If most people are just voting for a change, irrespective of what it is, is just silly.

Everyone, not just the media, but people seem to think this is just some tv be celebrity show.

I'd quite like him to be replaced by a competent Labour politician like Burnham. But it's more likely to be some nu Lab clone like Creasy. Looks like he will win big though so he'll be safe for a few years.
Will KJK run against him in his seat ? It would increase the profile of GC views if nothing else.

Im already weary thinking about the amount of drive by scolding’s we’re going to have

I do think other things are important, but women's rights are a line in the sand for me. I cannot and will not vote for a party that won't recognise and protect women's sex-based rights.

Meh! People can scold us as much as they like. I'm old enough and ugly enough to know my own mind. And no amount of but but but from certain posters is ever going to make me vote Labour THIS TIME! God, this may even be the year I don't Renew my Labour membership!

Now I've just got to look at my local candidates and work out who the hell I vote for!!

I've been sat here since the announcement trying to figure out who the actual fuck to vote for.

Tories are corrupt and care about nothing more than lining each other's pockets. But because they think it's a vote-winner, they will push through the Cass Review recommendations and protect single-sex spaces.

Labour - my political home...except for the gender woo. I think Keir Starmer is a fiercely intelligent and principled man and I'd be proud to be represented by him on the international stage. But he's trying too hard to please everyone, and I think self ID will be brought in under his leadership. Women's identity will be lost and I fear we'll never regain the rights and protection that we'll lose.

Lib Dems and Greens, completely lost to gender ideology. Not even a consideration.

So, absolutely abhor everything the Tories stand for but can't support Labour because of gender crap. What to do???

I moved to a new area last year. Just checked the voting history for my new town....it's been a safe Tory seat since 1997.

I will vote because I'm passionate about the election and voting. But my vote is absolutely meaningless when you look at these figures. I don't know why I've been wringing my hands over who to vote for when my vote will have precisely no impact whatsoever on anyone. Unless I choose to boost the Tory figures, of course.

I don’t understand why so many scolders are convinced that a Labour govt will result in an automatic land of milk and honey therefore it’s a legitimate strategy to put women’s rights to one side to obtain that promised land. Labour themselves have said they won’t spend more than what’s happening currently under the Tories, and that their intentions for the NHS are more working hours for staff combined with efficiency savings and waste reduction. That doesn’t sound like a party that’s going to fling open the coffers and throw dosh at the problems caused by austerity 🤷‍♀️

I can’t understand where this persistent notion that Labour will fix all the problems of our creaking state is coming from. Last time they were in power they tried spending without raising taxes and they ended up chaining us to PFI contracts that made things worse for public sector organisations (our local library service couldn’t buy books for years (and still has a pathetic budget) because they had to channel funds to service a ridiculous PFI contract).

I could understand flag waving for Labour if they were promising everyone that they’d be less small state than the Tories but that’s not what they’re promising so…..🤷‍♀️

My MP is Zarah Sultana, no way I'm going to be voting for her, she's totally TWAW. So, no idea who I'm going to vote for. Feel like it's all bloody pointless tbh, and that I don't want to bother at all...

Spot on.

This. Deserves a requote.

This made me go HEH

I know. It only feels like five fucking minutes since the last one. A lot will have to change in politics before I can get excited about a GE again

I've always been the sort to enjoy an election. Sit up all night, watch the results come in.

This year I may take the Temazapam I've been saving for a special occasion and go to bed at 6pm!

i always was very interested in politics too. It feels like everyone is dillusioned. I was listening to the rest is history episodes about 1974 and though the economy was much worse then, the feeling of weariness is familiar

My current Tory MP is TWAW. I'm veering towards Lib Dems as I like the local candidate but I definitely don't want them to be in power.

I've just been looking at past PMs so thought I'd stick these here.

https://twitter.com/sharrond62/status/1793378610793087075?s=19

"I will never vote for any party that doesn’t know what a women is - if you can’t define it you can’t protect it, our very hard fought for rights & safeties, especially in sport where women only get the tiniest slice of the opportunities available compared to male counterparts"

I'm not a drive-by scolder so you can fuck off with that accusation. If it's naive not to be a single issue voter then yes, I am naive. Unfortunately I'm also a public servant and I loathe this Tory performance of being "the party of law and order" while decimating the police and the prison service. They've overseen the dismantling of mental health services and children's services which has led more and more people into crime (obliquely). I'm not even going to mention education.

I'm happily naive, and I'm NOT voting Conservative.

I agree with you that the Tories have done all those things (and more) but I still don’t see Labour fixing these problems without spending money and they’ve committed to not spending more than the Tories.

We need parties to be realistic about tax and spend policies and to stop promising to give us the economic equivalent of a Mumsnet magic roast chicken.