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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

General Election 4 July 2024

87 replies

IwantToRetire · 22/05/2024 17:24

Heard it on the radio.

Newspapers yet to report.

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OldCrone · 22/05/2024 18:03

I cannot wait for a new government and hopefully the UK looking less like absolute imbeciles on the world stage.

You think that having a Prime Minister who thinks that some women have penises won't make us look like imbeciles?

fromorbit · 22/05/2024 18:03

This is the time to get our message across. Attend hustings, question candidates, maximise pressure.

In Scotland women's rights are going to have a huge impact on the election because the SNP are in deep decline because a bunch of pesky woman took them on.

It can happen elsewhere, but it depends on people teaming up and taking local action in their constituency.

Even if Labour are going to win it is VITAL that they get the impression that a lot of people are ready to fight endlessly for women's rights. Ask them the difficult questions.

Chersfrozenface · 22/05/2024 18:07

The last one was where it would actually change things. The rest they can’t afford.

The last one, trade - the EU will only change anything if it is in the interests of the bloc and its members. Otherwise, we can go whistle.

Floisme · 22/05/2024 18:07

At least I'll finally get to see Labour's manifesto. Does anyone know when they're likely to come out?

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 22/05/2024 18:08

Bumblebee907 · 22/05/2024 17:32

Amazing news, bring on anyone but the tories.

About time, bring it on!
Here's to the back of the Tories, hope to be waving "see ya!" at them

BlackeyedSusan · 22/05/2024 18:09

Labour has been banging on about "fiscal responsibility" no unfunded spending. Sticking with the conservative budget for now. There's not a lot of room for things to change fiscally. Ukraine, COVID, have buggered up the finances. The conservatives paid people lots of money to support them and businesses through COVID and this has left a hole in the budget.

Yes, Liz Truss buggered things up spectacularly and Boris was a nightmare . Bloody glad they've gone. Couldn't stand them. But choosing between fairly similar fiscal policy and the loss of women's rights... I'm worried we'll lose our right to single sex spaces. As a disabled parent of disabled children I am worried about that as dd is very vulnerable and needs protection from predatory males.

EasternStandard · 22/05/2024 18:10

Chersfrozenface · 22/05/2024 18:07

The last one was where it would actually change things. The rest they can’t afford.

The last one, trade - the EU will only change anything if it is in the interests of the bloc and its members. Otherwise, we can go whistle.

Totally

Labour ruled out SM or CU a couple of years ago

I would have taken an interest in that. Instead we’ll have Self ID and trafficking

unsync · 22/05/2024 18:12

IwantToRetire · 22/05/2024 17:47

Have just remembered we know have the Party of Women.

I could write that in on my ballot.

Even given KJK energy and organisational skills, I doubt she can get candidates into every constituency.

Phew - something to look forward to. Grin

Can I just say that if you are going to write anything on your ballot papers, do not do it across the actual voting boxes. It could be counted as having made a mark and you can inadvertently cast your vote.

This happened when I was witnessing a count. Someone had drawn a cock and balls and written 'knob' against one of the candidates, and it was argued that this was a mark and the vote was cast. I highly doubt that it was the voter's intention to vote for that candidate.

Boiledbeetle · 22/05/2024 18:18

Oh god!

Let the games commence.

IwantToRetire · 22/05/2024 18:18

unsync · 22/05/2024 18:12

Can I just say that if you are going to write anything on your ballot papers, do not do it across the actual voting boxes. It could be counted as having made a mark and you can inadvertently cast your vote.

This happened when I was witnessing a count. Someone had drawn a cock and balls and written 'knob' against one of the candidates, and it was argued that this was a mark and the vote was cast. I highly doubt that it was the voter's intention to vote for that candidate.

Thanks - I was thinking of trying to nearly squeeze in a line as though it was part of the ballot slip.

But can see I could inadverntently appear to tick someone.

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Boiledbeetle · 22/05/2024 18:27

I just opened my emails and there's Keir Starmer with his "this is the moment we've been working towards" and I realised without a shadow of a doubt I CANNOT VOTE LABOUR.

I just cant!

BreatheAndFocus · 22/05/2024 18:29

Labour are all talk. They spent their last term in office blaming everything on the Tories for years and years. That was because they had f*-all ideas of their own. Having gone round smarming up to potential voters and saying what those voters wanted (“Yes, yes, and we’ll all have jam for tea”), they got in and realised they had no idea what to do.

Starmer is as dynamic as a sunken soufflé and a waste of space. They’ll concentrate on gender idiocy because they’ll see that as an easy win and it requires no real thinking or understanding or planning, just platitudes and ‘being kind’ - although not kind to women, of course.

There’s no way on this earth I’m voting for a party that thinks I’m some kind of subhuman or an adequate non-man prone to a shrill voice, dinosaur views and hoarding my own bloody rights (fuck off, Lammy!)!

If all women voted Tory, gender crap would not only disappear, every other party would change their views.( Except perhaps the Green Party, my old party, who are, sad to say, beyond hope.) There’d then be another early GE and we could vote for whom we actually wanted to once the other parties have sat up and taken notice. Then we can sort education, finance, etc etc.

BlackeyedSusan · 22/05/2024 18:31

I'm really sad I can't vote Labour either.

PaddingtonTheAngelofDeath · 22/05/2024 18:37

I can't vote Labour either.

PonyPatter44 · 22/05/2024 18:40

I'm not a single-issue voter. The Tories have caused the womens rights shitshow we currently have, as well as destroying the economy and asset-stripping the country. Get rid of them.

Boiledbeetle · 22/05/2024 18:41

Momentums email: " we can either wake up in July to five more years of the Tories or a Labour Government we can pressure for better".

That isn't exactly Labour are wonderful is it!

I think I want to go back to bed. Can someone wake me around Christmas?

PaddingtonTheAngelofDeath · 22/05/2024 18:43

My concern @Boiledbeetle is that Kier is just a puppet for getting in, and that he will be replaced by a hardliner in the first 12 months.

Chersfrozenface · 22/05/2024 18:45

PonyPatter44 · 22/05/2024 18:40

I'm not a single-issue voter. The Tories have caused the womens rights shitshow we currently have, as well as destroying the economy and asset-stripping the country. Get rid of them.

Remind me again who brought in the Gender Recognition Act, making men legally women.

lechiffre55 · 22/05/2024 18:50
Snp GIF by The Scottish Conservatives

I wonder how the ( remaining ) SNP feel about this general election? :)
I'm sure they will do just dandy :)

JanesLittleGirl · 22/05/2024 18:50

Susan B. Anthony:

General Election 4 July 2024
IwantToRetire · 22/05/2024 18:52

(1) I'm not a single-issue voter. The Tories have caused the womens rights shitshow we currently have, as well as destroying the economy and asset-stripping the country. Get rid of them.

(2) Remind me again who brought in the Gender Recognition Act, making men legally women.

This is the other dread of a GE, having the same misleading statements (1) which cant be left to go unresponded to (2) so cant even expect to have a decent discussion on FWR.

What we need is some politics geek to run us up a quick list of which bills were passed when, and who was the party in power at the time.

And no statement like (1) can be made without using the compiled list to show it is a correct statement.

Grin
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EasternStandard · 22/05/2024 18:52

lechiffre55 · 22/05/2024 18:50

I wonder how the ( remaining ) SNP feel about this general election? :)
I'm sure they will do just dandy :)

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Oh my first time I’ve seen that

Kucinghitam · 22/05/2024 18:56

Just placemarking for the vote-scoldings Wink

Boiledbeetle · 22/05/2024 18:59

Now this candidate I can vote for

General Election 4 July 2024
Boiledbeetle · 22/05/2024 19:03

PaddingtonTheAngelofDeath · 22/05/2024 18:43

My concern @Boiledbeetle is that Kier is just a puppet for getting in, and that he will be replaced by a hardliner in the first 12 months.

Yeah! I feel like Keir is being used as a non threatening friendly face! But as he's so fucking wet he would be easy to oust as leader if Labour were in power. And we know there are elements within Labour who are more akin to rabid dogs than decent human beings who won't ever be happy with Keir as their leader.