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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Emily Sheffield is a boss

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ArabellaScott · 14/05/2024 10:46

https://twitter.com/JeremyVineOn5/status/1789962540593934651

Jeremy Vine is Disappointed Reasonable Man let down by JKR's tone. Marvyn Harrison is Very Cross that JKR is not Kind enough and says her 'rhetoric' is 'disgusting'.

Emily Sheffield holds her own despite being talked over and her points dismissed by two blokes defending another bloke after a woman was nasty to him.

A message from women everywhere:

https://twitter.com/JeremyVineOn5/status/1789962540593934651

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AReasonablePerson · 14/05/2024 11:02

The view that this is piling in on an individual is the line I'm hearing around this. However, Lucy Clark has been the subject of media promotion as the first trans manager in women's football. This isn't a trans person just getting on with their life. This is a male taking a role in women's football and being publicly lauded for it. And THAT is one of the points that we are all making. Females in their places and spaces pushed out by males who want them.

And the arrogance of that guy Marvyn Harrison in rudely speaking over her just says it all.

AReasonablePerson · 14/05/2024 11:03

and yes Emily Sheffield bossed it there. We need to see this everywhere.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 14/05/2024 11:13

Apparently he says there's extremes of behaviour in both camps.

I could list so many examples of the violence threatened upon women by TRAs.

I'm pretty sure there's bugger all on the other side.

But yes, she was incredibly articulate. And those two men are just fucking idiots. I'm so sick of men policing womens words and actions on this. Fuck off until it directly impacts you.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 14/05/2024 11:13

Thanks for the video OP, loved that Grin

SinnerBoy · 14/05/2024 11:21

I wonder why Jeremy didn't mention all the vile abuse, which Clark has dished out to women on social media?

AReasonablePerson · 14/05/2024 11:22

Posting this here courtesy of @dialsquarenitter.poast.org/galluslass/status/1789969437627392114#m Reveals this particular media storm to be the trolling of women that it is. Just more of the same.

Yellowcrocuspatch · 14/05/2024 11:28

I am fed up of men telling us they know our bodies better than we do.

ArabellaScott · 14/05/2024 11:28

Women stating facts is beyond the pale.

The same man has insulted and impugned JKR, but God forbid she state he's a man.

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Igmum · 14/05/2024 11:39

Thanks @AReasonablePerson that's really useful. Agree, women simply not being nice and not centreing men in all things is not unreasonable

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 14/05/2024 11:47

SinnerBoy · 14/05/2024 11:21

I wonder why Jeremy didn't mention all the vile abuse, which Clark has dished out to women on social media?

Different rules for Sacred Caste?

I would watch a podcast series of people in media studies analysing the coverage of this and other stories. I know there are some high-powered people commenting on stories but there seems to be homogeneity on the presentation of some stories.

ScrapeMyArse · 14/05/2024 11:53

Confess I'd never heard of Emily but she was ace!

ArabellaScott · 14/05/2024 12:05

What happened to all the vaguely stirring phrases like 'well behaved women rarely make history ' and 'nevertheless she persisted' etc?

Feminists are tolerated so long as they don't actually threaten to upset men.

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SinnerBoy · 14/05/2024 12:18

Jezza still hasn't deigned to answer my question about Clarky's misogynist posts against women. Do you think he's too busy scolding JKR to bother?

AReasonablePerson · 14/05/2024 12:21

ArabellaScott · 14/05/2024 12:05

What happened to all the vaguely stirring phrases like 'well behaved women rarely make history ' and 'nevertheless she persisted' etc?

Feminists are tolerated so long as they don't actually threaten to upset men.

Edited

There is this one from a recent poster

decent men keep out of female spaces

Think its time has come

lcakethereforeIam · 14/05/2024 13:57

Well, this puts another layer of 'wtf were you thinking' Hayton?

ArabellaScott · 14/05/2024 14:34

Clark has sent many tweets to JKR admonishing her and calling her names:

'Troglodyte' 'bigot' 'lowest of the low' 'hateful bigot' 'boring' 'a cishet' 'transphobic twonk' 'terf', etc.

He's a dedicated activist who has been listed in the 'Diva Power List'.

JKR on Clark:

'straight, white, middle-aged bloke'.

Men everywhere: 'BURN THE WITCH'

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Boiledbeetle · 14/05/2024 14:47

TRA Men : be kind... Be nice...

Women: Oh fuck off!

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SinnerBoy · 14/05/2024 15:03

I know, it's all Unkind, unhelpful, unnecessary, increases prejudice against transw...

"But what about 'Suck my girl dick! Die in a grease fire! Here's my pet baseball bat with barbed wire."

Tumbleweed.....

Yellowcrocuspatch · 14/05/2024 15:14

ScrapeMyArse · 14/05/2024 11:53

Confess I'd never heard of Emily but she was ace!

Emily Sheffield is the sister of Samantha Cameron, aka David Cameron’s sister in law.

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 14/05/2024 15:22

Boiledbeetle · 14/05/2024 14:47

TRA Men : be kind... Be nice...

Women: Oh fuck off!

TRA allies: "Comprehension is not requisite for cooperation”

Women: "We understand fine. We'll neither be coerced nor have our speech compelled. You appear to think that's a problem."

Floisme · 14/05/2024 15:24

Yellowcrocuspatch · 14/05/2024 15:14

Emily Sheffield is the sister of Samantha Cameron, aka David Cameron’s sister in law.

You seem to have missed out that she's also an experienced journalist and broadcaster who, I believe, has been Deputy Editor of Vogue and Editor of The Evening Standard.

Rightsraptor · 14/05/2024 15:46

I'd never heard of that Marvin before and I must say I'm very unimpressed by him. Barges in with his explanations for the little woman who clearly doesn't know which way is up.

Apart from she does. She knows it way better than either of those men. And did you hear the ease with which Vine called Clarke 'Lucy' and 'she'? I wonder if "she'd" be in Vine's little black book, should his marriage end.

ScrapeMyArse · 14/05/2024 16:19

Yellowcrocuspatch · 14/05/2024 15:14

Emily Sheffield is the sister of Samantha Cameron, aka David Cameron’s sister in law.

Off to self flagellate myself for being in agreement on reality with someone Tory - adjacent (soz if you were merely being informative rather than guilt by association shaming)

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 14/05/2024 16:20

That twitter thread is a joy to read, so many comments along the line of but he is a white middle aged straight man.

AReasonablePerson · 14/05/2024 18:11

ScrapeMyArse · 14/05/2024 16:19

Off to self flagellate myself for being in agreement on reality with someone Tory - adjacent (soz if you were merely being informative rather than guilt by association shaming)

Sorry, but COME ON! The grown up approach in life is to address issues rather than attack people because they may have a different view on something else. This kind of thing is what got us all in this mess in the first place. We are not America!