BBC Radio Scotland

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Shocking interview on BBC Radio Scotland this morning. . Interviewee passionate about stopping his 10-year-old daughter’s puberty after deciding she was a boy before she could talk.

It's shocking, it's gaslighting. Bbc should be safeguarding children. WTF?

Link to journalist on Twitter who captured it x.com/journalismseen/status/1781228440701550786?s=46

It is a child abuse not letting a child grow up naturally. That family need investigation for what they have done and what their future plans for their daughter

Do explain how this miracle of nature happens…

Pitta567 has gone very quiet. Maybe they’ve been told to switch off their phone and go to sleep.

I'm going to predict a response along the lines of "biology is really complicated and you lot don't understand it" and/or "why are you obsessed with genitalia". Probably with a sprinkling of bigot and transphobe.

I respect my children's views. However I know that they are children, that one of my primary roles as their parent is to keep them safe. That doesn't include lying to them and putting them on life changing unproven medication.

Of course the answer to this depends on what you mean by "trans kid".

(That's obvious, no? -- Let's spell it out: If "trans kid" means "a child with three metre long arms", then, no, trans kids don't exist. If "trans kid" means "a boy in pink pyjamas" or "a girl wearing a blue nightdress", then, yes, trans kids certainly exist.)

So what do you mean by "trans kid", hmm, @Pitta567?

If by "trans kid" you mean "a child born with a girl's body who is actually a boy", then no, no such kids exist. If you mean "a girl whose parents wanted a boy", then, yes, such kids do exist. (Do you agree?)

There are different ideas about what a trans kid might be, don't you see, @Pitta567? So really your question as it stands can't be answered. Please try to say what you think a "trans kid" is, then you might begin to understand more about what's at stake here.

(Oh, and "monsters aren't real" you said earlier. Depends what you mean by "monster", again, of course. For instance some would say only a real monster would deliberately sterilise his daughter with off-license drugs at the age of ten. What d'you think?)

When will we get an an inquiry into why so many governments, public bodies , councils , and the rest of the them thought it was ok to sterilise and experiment on our children with no evidence

it kinda seems like the the experiments on children with blood products

@wonderstuff Sorry your son couldn't be Spiderman, but I have to say I'm not surprised because my son is actually Spiderman. He says I'm the only one he's trusted with his secret identity but on an anonymous forum it's probably OK to tell. He is very clear on the point that he is not pretending to be Spiderman, he is Spiderman. Of course I am very honoured that he trusted me with his truth.

My 4 year old has a spidey teddy. It’s all spidey now. 🥰

If my dad could have transed me, he would’ve. He really didn’t rate women as fully human, and didn’t want daughters.

I hope this guy isn’t trying to ‘trade up’. Agree that the BBC shouldn’t be giving out this kind of message without any balance or evidence.

Also I assumed Pitta657 has a ‘trans’ child.

One of my 3 year olds thinks there’s a monster under his bed 😟 it’s very real to him so he’ll get into his brother’s bed to protect him. (that’s his reasoning)
Children have such vivid imaginations as they’re trying to make sense and understand the world around them.
They’ve no concept of what is and isn’t real and as parents it is our role and responsibility to help and guide them till they’re mature enough to make sense of it all.

right so if my child is upset I should let her be rendered infertile and unable to orgasm for her entire adult life - just so I can avoid upsetting a ten year old.

I've dealt with mental health issues, self-harming, and suicidal ideation with one of my children. I had to make choices about medication that seemed to offer a fix but had long term effects. I know what you have to do. It is hard and relentless. Choosing a quick fix that harms your child irreparably because you believe that girls can be turned into boys (no they can't) is not good parenting. Not good health care.

Oh and my son became a dog from ages 2-7 when he was stressed. He wasn't actually a dog.

OMG poor child.
And poor other children who have also been gaslit along the way.
A 10 year old having been told they have girl parts but are really a boy their entire life.

Surely the parents should be investigated for child abuse?
I bet the teachers and everyone else they came into contact with knew it was parent rather than child driven.

When I was about 9, I was very easily influenced by the books I read. I wanted to be like George from the Famous Five. I had short hair, wore nothing girly and beamed when people thought I was a boy. I even strung along a group of other kids (all boys) into thinking I was a boy too, because I didn't want them to treat me differently. I vehemently hated pink and found girliness personally offensive. I was furious at the idea of having to be a yucky mother (I apologise to all mothers on behalf of child me) and rejected the idea of having kids.

I didn't know it then, but I had a common ND condition that is severely underdiagnosed in girls and women and overrepresented at gender identity clinics.

Puberty, as it turns out, resolved most of my issues (although I did later go through a nonbinary thing that lasted a single day). I'm happy being a woman, I'm much more aware of how much influence books and "queer theory" have had on me, I no longer reject femininity out of hand, and I have a healthy relationship with my body. As much as I hated puberty, I'm glad I went through it and got it over with.

@Pitta567 Monsters do exist. But maybe we have different definitions just like “trans kids”. I find that label unhelpful as you’re constraining children and also lumping children together who have various reasons for feeling and acting as they do. I also don’t think that a middle aged man who comes out as trans has anything in common with a young girl who does and so the term trans is meaningless at this stage.

Even for arguments sake if it were true that people could be born in the wrong body, do you not see how silly it is to think a child who was under one would understand the difference between boys and girls and be trying to communicate about it?

If I said my 4 month old was trying to tell me he was gay as he was getting upset at being read stories of prince and princesses living happily ever after would you be homophobic to think that wasn’t true and in fact quite odd to think that way about such a young child?

Do you think trans kids don’t exist?

They don't. The Trans Kid is needed by gender ideologues to prop up the notion that everyone has an innate gendered soul.

There are children with sex dysphoria, which mostly resolves.

Or just kids who are uncomfortable with their developing bodies and are persuaded into thinking that if they don't conform to rigid and outdated sex stereotypes there must be something wrong with them. Particularly those who are neurodiverse or homosexual.

How do TRAs explain the overrepresentation of autism in teenage girls who think they are trans?

#OperationLetThemSpeak is doing wonders again.

For those of us in the reality-based community, I find myself thinking back a mere (say) decade or so. If a really fervent forceful-sounding angry adult human male had been complaining so publicly about his child being born a female, everybody (including TRSOHers) would have seen exactly what was going on.

The mother believes in reincarnation and thinks the child was a boy in a previous life…

https://twitter.com/serena_partrick/status/1781420223930790272?s=42

So much wrong in there it's hard to know where to start. An atheist that believes in reincarnation? Sure. A boy in a previous life? Sure. (In the next life won't they be saying they were a girl in a previous life? Which life is the determining 'life' when it comes to what sex you really are? So many questions! Must be a real headache to work that into law!)

"My son has lived his entire life male", well yes, that's how 'being male' and 'being female' works. I think this is factually untrue, though.

Really good to let them speak.... would be good if they were ever asked to address the multiple inconsistencies that appear in even a few sentences.

cognitive scientists have known for a really long time that children don’t know whether they are male or female until just before their third birthday. When they hit three they can then categorise people as men and women and appreciate gender stereotypes (dresses are for girls , etc). There is absolutely no way a pre verbal child would be able to express yet they were really a boy , because a pre verbal child doesn’t even have that concept yet. So these parents are saying things which are just false and show it’s something they’ve projected onto this child. It’s like saying your baby is upset at being labelled a commoner so must really be royalty- they have no clue what these words or concepts mean.

I also saw on Twitter the mother has come out saying her child is a boy because she likes to play sports and all her friends are male , and this just gives me the creeps. When I was a kid I remember being the only girl in football club and playing with boys in the playground. If I were a child today I could be so easily transed !

Oh my god Bitchard is the mother!! Thank you for joining the dots. The poor child. Grim.

I only have one question. Why haven't the parents been referred to Social Services?

what would be the point? They would only rush round with some dodgy "medicine" in a rainbow box and a pamphlet on "My first surgery".