The Scottish Greens are revolting

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https://news.stv.tv/politics/furious-lgbt-scottish-greens-say-party-could-leave-government-over-nhs-puberty-blockers-pause

At least, the Rainbow Greens are!

There's a petition for the Greens to leave Government, if anyone finds it please post the link or how to find it!

Should just replace him with an empty chair. I think he was worse than a man short, and that would prove it.

Cllr Blair Anderson posts in response to Humza stepping down:

'Don't mess with the Scottish Greens'

https://twitter.com/blairanderson35/status/1784901869426319757

Cllr Anderson is, apparently, an adult.

I am so glad he is gone now we need an election so the SNP get booted out for good.

https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-twist/
'The Scottish Greens made abundantly plain over the weekend that any idea of supporting a government led by Yousaf was out of the question, and that their future backing for the SNP was conditional on it being led by someone they approved of.But Yousaf said that rather than stand down and let the Deputy FM Shona Robison take charge of the country for a few weeks or months while the SNP choose a successor, he would remain in office until the process was concluded.This may be simply because nobody in Scotland would trust Robison with hot liquids, but it’s nevertheless a significant step, because it means that when Labour’s confidence motion comes before the Holyrood chamber later this week, it’ll be a confidence motion in a government led by Humza Yousaf.And that of course means that the Greens either have to do a simply COLOSSAL u-turn on everything they’ve been saying since last Thursday, or they still have to vote with Labour and bring the government down.That isn’t what they wanted. They wanted to spend the next two years with the SNP dancing on a string, unable to do anything that the Greens didn’t like for fear of being immediately defenestrated. They wanted to effectively control the SNP by having a veto on who got to be the party’s leader.They CAN still do that, by abstaining on the vote, but they’ll look utterly ridiculous. And of course, that’s never been much of a problem for them, so it may well happen. But in the only tiny example of ever having some spine during his time in Bute House, Yousaf has gone out by tossing a hand grenade over his shoulder in their direction and leaving them to deal with it.'

As childish and inappropriate as it is, it's not that wide of the mark. It does seem that without a general election Scottish government is hostage to the greens.

I'd say they do a pretty good job of messing with themselves.

They have mentioned the impact of gender identity on all this on the world at one radio 4

How might Alex Salmond turn this to his advantage?
How big is the Alba Party?
Big enough to have any real power?
I can imagine that many people will listen to Alex, even if they are not Alba voters.

Chris Mason has acknowledged the role of “the almightily toxic issue of trans rights” in his piece on what did for Humza.

Greens are going to support SNP in the vote (though I'm not sure that the Rainbow Greens know this yet).

My Scottish DH asked me if I knew that the Scottish Greens were bonkers and immersed in identity politics and not at all an organisation focused on environmental issues. Like it was a big revelation to him. And he’s someone that likes to think of himself as on top of current affairs, so it will take a while yet to trickle down to the average voter.

(He is a sex realist but like a lot of middle aged men he doesn’t always get why this is a big deal so I save my rants discussion points for when they’ll be best received.)

Did your eyes roll so hard they got stuck around the back?

i smiled benignly and asked him if he’d seen that the greens had accepted the rollback on the energy things but this was their hard stop, and apparently this was what brought it to his attention. And he was rhetorically asking who you’d vote for in Scotland if environmental issues was your thing, which given the potential for renewable energy should be a huge deal in his eyes.

He’s on our side, but thinks I take things a bit personally sometimes. But then he doesn’t rate “community” or “solidarity” as a personal value, whether this or any other issue. His upbringing/family of origin was very “don’t get involved”, so I can see where it’s coming from.

John Swinney is reportedly seriously considering leading the SNP.

What's he like...especially on gender isues?

If I was interested in environmental issue (I am, as many of us are), then I would speak to/listen to the candidates views on this and choose from that. However I would NOT vote Green. If they deny/fail to understand/read an expert evidenced report on drugs that sterilise children, then I cannot trust them to read/understand any other scientific reports.

Ross Greer describes him as his 'work dad' so..........

https://twitter.com/WingsScotland/status/1784896080397693009

If Swinney becomes leader with the support of the Greens then we will be back to square one but with the Greens in an even more advantageous position than before. Honestly the whole thing is a shit show and a waste of time. Looks like it will be more of the same.

What is hilarious interesting is that within the Greens, seen as flaky and extreme by most people, there are even more extreme factions, such as the Rainbow Greens, that are almost wholly focussed on gender, and hugely destructive, and apparently incapable of reason at all.

The splinter groups may end up imploding the Greens. There were murmurs of getting rid of Harvie, Slater, and Greer.

Don’t the Greens still have their EGM coming up?

Per the Rainbow Greens' X feed, they wrote demanding an EGM on 19 April (so presumably all members have been written to/emailed by now.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24283157.inside-story-green-rebels-want-rid-leadership/

Stephen Flynn on The News Agents this evening saying that he would've preferred the arrangement with the Greens to have ended after the Rutherglen by election last autumn.

I never understood why the snp had to have the greens in coalition with them? Why didn't they just run as a minor government with a confidence and supply agreement?

I don’t think the greens will be back in any kind of formal arrangement like the BHA. Much as it pains me to agree with him I think Salmond was right on Sunday Politics yesterday when he said it was Harvie’s comments about Cass that made him pull the plug. I don’t think any future FM can be aligned with his lunatic views on that either.

I doubt the Greens would have gone for that. I suspect they wanted more concessions than the SNP were prepared to give them in exchange for a C&S.

Plus the Greens leadership saw an opportunity for power - not something they would ever get otherwise. The Green's MSPs saw personal kudos and advancement.