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littlbrowndog · 25/04/2024 18:47

Yeah salmond is loving this

fromorbit · 25/04/2024 18:48

Alex Salmond: “Humza Yousaf has managed to make Ash Regan, the Alba MSP, the most powerful MSP in the Scottish Parliament... I'm sure that Ash Regan will use that power very wisely indeed”

It was Ash's no confidence motion in Harvie that looked likely to pass with SNP votes that triggered the break up of the coalition it seems. So she is playing a blinder.

Humza Yousaf forgot the rule: leaders who want to look tough look stupid
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/apr/25/humza-yousaf-forgot-the-rule-leaders-who-want-to-look-tough-look-stupid

Humza Yousaf forgot the rule: leaders who want to look tough look stupid | John Crace

Only this week the first minister said he was delighted with his coalition with the Greens. But then …

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/apr/25/humza-yousaf-forgot-the-rule-leaders-who-want-to-look-tough-look-stupid

Chersfrozenface · 25/04/2024 18:52

I get the impression turning the other cheek isn't a feature of Scottish politics.

Mind you, historically you do have clans feuding with ferocity, determination and long, long memories.

BloodyHellKenAgain · 25/04/2024 18:59

PhDinaseive · 25/04/2024 18:04

Listening to pm on R4, did an SNP spokesperson say that the gender stuff was all the Greens idea?

It wouldn't surprise me at all if they tried to distance themselves and blame all the gender stuff on the greens.

OvaHere · 25/04/2024 19:03

BloodyHellKenAgain · 25/04/2024 18:59

It wouldn't surprise me at all if they tried to distance themselves and blame all the gender stuff on the greens.

I'm sure it would be convincing if it wasn't for the bazillion receipts everyone has. 😀

JanesLittleGirl · 25/04/2024 19:03

They'll be blaming the Greens for pursuing independence next.

fromorbit · 25/04/2024 19:04

BloodyHellKenAgain · 25/04/2024 18:59

It wouldn't surprise me at all if they tried to distance themselves and blame all the gender stuff on the greens.

Reminiscent of some Tories suddenly blaming gender stuff just on the left in the last few years.

Just say the terfs were right all along.

Chersfrozenface · 25/04/2024 19:06

BloodyHellKenAgain · 25/04/2024 18:59

It wouldn't surprise me at all if they tried to distance themselves and blame all the gender stuff on the greens.

They could blame the Greens for the Deposit Return Scheme debacle.

The ferries, health service, education, etc, maybe less so.

endofthelinefinally · 25/04/2024 19:17

LBC this evening is focusing on this. Very Interesting.

Solgrass · 25/04/2024 19:30

fromorbit · 25/04/2024 18:48

Alex Salmond: “Humza Yousaf has managed to make Ash Regan, the Alba MSP, the most powerful MSP in the Scottish Parliament... I'm sure that Ash Regan will use that power very wisely indeed”

It was Ash's no confidence motion in Harvie that looked likely to pass with SNP votes that triggered the break up of the coalition it seems. So she is playing a blinder.

Humza Yousaf forgot the rule: leaders who want to look tough look stupid
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/apr/25/humza-yousaf-forgot-the-rule-leaders-who-want-to-look-tough-look-stupid

Brilliant article. This is my fav line : ‘ So this time next week Yousaf could be gone. How many Liz Trusses is that? Eight?’

motheronthedancefloor · 25/04/2024 19:42

Does anyone know what Ash Regan has specifically said she wants? As the news are only talking in general terms.

nebulae · 25/04/2024 19:46

Today's events brought to mind a quote from my favourite book...

"Sooner or later we all sit down to a banquet of consequences"

motheronthedancefloor · 25/04/2024 19:48

Fergus Ewing could be the deciding vote, not Ash Regan....

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/04/2024 20:05

Kirsten Oswald
Kaukab Stewart

The two gormless fools in the notorious Decapitate Terfs banner photo, IIRC

fromorbit · 25/04/2024 20:09

motheronthedancefloor · 25/04/2024 19:42

Does anyone know what Ash Regan has specifically said she wants? As the news are only talking in general terms.

I posted this article earlier. It is from a paper close to indy folks.
A bill on a referendum being key Ash demand.

“My priorities are completely unchanged and that is: independence, women’s rights, child protection, protection of our key industries.”

Ash Regan to set out demands for supporting Humza Yousaf
https://www.thenational.scot/news/24278902.ash-regan-sets-demand-supporting-humza-yousaf/

Price will be high.

Ash Regan to set out list of demands to back Humza Yousaf in no-confidence vote

ASH Regan will set out a list of demands to Humza Yousaf in exchange for her support – including him backing her independence bill.

https://www.thenational.scot/news/24278902.ash-regan-sets-demand-supporting-humza-yousaf

WhereAreWeNow · 25/04/2024 20:11

Scottish MNers, please help me to understand! Is this likely to lead to SNP losing power? Then what? Has Scottish Labour got itself together enough to win an election? Have Scottish Labour MPs been distancing themselves from the trans madness in the light of Cass in the same way that MPs like Wes Streeting have?
Sorry for being so ignorant 😞 If it makes a difference, I'm feeling a bit out of loop on current affairs in general, not just Scottish politics!

ArabellaScott · 25/04/2024 20:20

WhereAreWeNow · 25/04/2024 20:11

Scottish MNers, please help me to understand! Is this likely to lead to SNP losing power? Then what? Has Scottish Labour got itself together enough to win an election? Have Scottish Labour MPs been distancing themselves from the trans madness in the light of Cass in the same way that MPs like Wes Streeting have?
Sorry for being so ignorant 😞 If it makes a difference, I'm feeling a bit out of loop on current affairs in general, not just Scottish politics!

SNP are currently governing with a (small) minority.

Because the motion of no confidence is in Humza, not the govt, it's unlikely to topple the SNP. I think.

Scottish Labour have improved but still are second to SNP in polls. Scottish Labour are a dilute version of UK Labour, eeeeeeeeeeeeever so slightly less batshit than SNP/Greens, but not for the most part robustly on the side of common sense.

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ArabellaScott · 25/04/2024 20:22

https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/scotland.html

Labour 33.5%
SNP 36%

So SNP need either to make a coalition, though I don't see how as all other parties are Unionist, or govern with a minority, which could in theory be challenged.

There is the possibility we get a Labour/Green or a Lab/Green/LD coalition.

Scotland

https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/scotland.html

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ArabellaScott · 25/04/2024 20:22

(All based on my very rough understanding, I should add).

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teawamutu · 25/04/2024 20:23

I'm sure Ash Regan will play a good hand with the cards she holds.

My childish side would love her to use Humza's words as she consigns his useless arse to the dustbin of history, though.

WhereAreWeNow · 25/04/2024 20:27

Thanks @ArabellaScott . I wonder who would take over if he loses the vote.

SaffronSpice · 25/04/2024 20:50

I dread another Scottish independence referendum. The last one was so toxic and I can imagine another even more so.

It took the UK government to stop the GRR bill, FWR appeal is based on UK legislation as are all the other Scottish cases for discrimination. Without the UK government the SNP/ Greens would have been forging ahead of Canada in the destruction of Women’s rights and the harm to children. They have been the only checks.

lechiffre55 · 25/04/2024 21:03

Does this mean that Dr. Hilary Cass might claim Humza's political head?

Imagine spending fours years putting together an incredibly in depth report into care for gender dysphoric youth, and incidentally liberating Scotland from a bunch of moronic tyrants almost by accident.

Powerful juju indeed. Girl power :)

CaptainCarrotsBigSword · 25/04/2024 21:07

nebulae · 25/04/2024 19:46

Today's events brought to mind a quote from my favourite book...

"Sooner or later we all sit down to a banquet of consequences"

I prefer the slightly more risque version...

The dildo of consequence rarely arrives lubed.

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