Women's rights general conversations - Thread 8

[Kucinghitam]

Continuation of Thread 7.

There is so much excellent information and so many active discussions on FWR that I wondered if it would be useful to have a thread to sort of "cross-fertilise" between them - airing little thoughts or vignettes that wouldn't themselves merit their own thread, to highlight other posts/threads of particular interest or to point to notable developments on fast-moving threads so that casual observers know where to look.

(For example, "the X thread has meandered onto a fascinating discussion of Y" or "Poster P's amazing analysis on thread Z might have relevance to the scenario in thread W" or "Has anybody noticed this recurring theme that keeps coming up??" or even "Random bloke asked me to smile while I was choosing onions in the supermarket, grr"- that sort of thing).

Then DD1 (the SJW) looked it up on her phone and loftily informed us that he was non-binary.

How galling for him, that people don't just know!

Just read this article in the Critic. Was wondering if it was a belated April fool?

https://thecritic.co.uk/x-scandal/

TLDR it's a sculpture of a woman obvs! Just look at the picture and drag your minds out of the gutter!

I commented to my DD on Messenger that the UK entry looked like a group of gay guys cottaging and she was rather shocked that I knew what cottaging was. She's 43 - you'd think she would have figured out by now that I'm not a sweet naive old lady.

Norton didn't have as many obvious cognitive glitches over Nemo, but did exclaim 'He's won!' at the final result. Funny thing, instinct.

I'm finding it a bit scary being surrounds by Eurovision enthusiasts!

I strongly take the view that although it's not the worst thing in the world, it's very much SAFC.

I'm not at all a Eurovision enthusiast. I think the last time I watched it was probably over 40 years ago and I didn't think much of it then.

It's changed quite a lot in the past 40 years!

Last night was pretty good - some years it's wall to wall dull ballads, but this had a decent variety of styles and genuine uncertainty over who would win.

And it was nice to see them siding with the female staff member over the 'star'.

I take it Graham Norton won't be losing his job, even though he thinks anyone else should because it would be 'accountability culture' to never do the job again?

Or is that just for everyone else?

Ha! I think Brancusi's subconsious might have been telling on him. I like Marie Bonaparte's attitude to the flasher.

Anyway, never mind Eurovision, this is where it's at! 😄

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5073002-now-thats-what-i-call-gender-critical-full-album-by-the-state-media

It's all been downhill since ABBA.

Article in the NYT showing how ads featuring young girls attract mainly adult men... and then naive people don't understand safeguarding issues with male access to women's spaces.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/13/us/instagram-child-safety.html?unlockedarticlee_code=1.rk0.QdYu.i7dJc9qqdVyf&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Ugh, that's horrible. I've read a lot the last few years but am still astonished at just how many creep men are out there.

Good grief! Marie Bonaparte 'concluded that the female orgasm was linked to the distance between the vagina and the clitoris. She had two surgical operations to realign hers. Both failed.' I'm literally lost for words. Except maybe: never underestimate the oddness of allegedly intelligent people. And FFS Marie, there were any number of high-profile lesbians in Paris at that time who would have been only too happy to er... put you straight

This is interesting. I still don't understand why s/he is non-binary, rather than just her/him self, but it's a viewpoint I've not read about before:

www.queermajority.com/essays-all/jesuisnonbinary

With that realization also came a fear: if I were to leave social justice behind and the theories that had meant so much to me, it would be a disaster for me as a non-binary person. The ways they had accommodated my identity had rendered the rest of the world unsafe and left me dependent upon them.

We are your friends, we love you; the outside world hates you, you can only be safe with us; don't talk to the dangerous outsiders. What other organisations that we're not allowed to name operate this way?

I still don’t know how to reconcile the parts of queer theory that mean something to me with my love for science and the liberal ideas I am moving back toward.

So close to an important realisation. I wonder whether the intervening 2 years have brought the next step into view.

I don't think we've had this in This Place.

Helen Joyce and Hayton after the latter's, shall we say, questionable Spectator article:

Lucy Hunter Blackburn and Susan Dalgety have a book coming out on 30th May with essays from various women who wouldn't wheesht, including JKR -

x.com/LucyHunterB/status/1790985792912785557

I caught this headline, and it got me thinking about the journalist censured by the BBC for calling men male. Then I read the article, the writer was way ahead of me

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2024/05/15/bbc-not-calling-hamas-terrorists/

https://archive.ph/x68eS I'm calling this a way to bypass the paywall because that's what it is

After all heaven forfend that the BBC upset the men in Hamas by calling them what the Government of this country call them! 😶

Shit... I'm literally Hitler!

https://mol.im/a/13429719

Step away from the jackboots...

Apparently so....

I share one bad hair day photo with you and this is what you do with it!!!

Right!

That's a shield bug not a beetle and it's Vincent Price!

Ahhh, but they identify, quite successfully, most people just can't tell, as beetles. And yep definitely trying to impersonate Vincent Price that one!