MN promoting cervical screening. Guess which word is missing

[HermioneWeasley]

It’s being promoted on MN, later on they say you’ll usually have a female nurse do it, but it’s all about PEOPLE

https://www.mumsnet.com/articles/cervical-screening

@MNHQ why are you colluding with this woman erasing nonsense?

Because they know and why does it matter otherwise?

Many people don't know what a cervix is though, studies have found.

Anyone with a cervix is a woman by definition. Some women don’t have a cervix either because they are born without one due to a DSD/intersex condition (eg CAIS women) or because they had had surgery. But no man has a cervix.

yeah nah

https://www.jostrust.org.uk/node/666780

“Almost half of women (44.2%)[1] are unaware of what the cervix is, unable to correctly identify it as the neck of the womb (uterus)”

but you keep on posting - you do our work for us

The word cervix is derived from the Latin root word "cervix" which means "neck." For this reason, the word cervical pertains to many areas where tissues narrow to a neck-like passage, and not only in your neck.

So the add is correct - everyone should go for a checkup, cos all people have necks. And by putting in the ages I know I don’t need to worry about any children getting tested.

/s

Oh Helen, what do you think people with DSDs are?

As for knowing if you have a cervix or not, my kid and her best friend (a boy) don’t know if they have cervixes- should we take them for a check up to find out? 🤔

I mean, I don’t even know for definite if I have an appendix. I can’t see inside.

I’ve pointed this out before, but the eminent politician David Lammy once stated his belief that transwomen (male people) can grow a cervix when they transition! That’s a well-educated person speaking and he got it so, so wrong.

Very good point.

How would they know? What you and helen are banking on is that everyone will know that "people" in this context means "women". Some won't.

And if "people" here means "women", why not say "women"?

I completely agree.

Last month, I was in the reception area at the borough council and the man queuing ahead of me had his nine year old with him to act as a translator, so he could tell the receptionist what services he wanted. The whole conversation was carried out using this child as an intermediary.

It's not that rare for bilingual children to be supporting non-English speaking parents, and even if it were, I hear minorities matter. So that means the mothers who don't speak English also deserve cancer screening, even if they're a tiny percentage of the population.

How do they know if they have only been called 'people'?

Come on, think it through.

God some people have too much time on their hands. Why not do something productive with your life.

Quick, stop trying to prevent unnecessary deaths.of women , because it's far more important not to offend some men who don't want the word woman attached to female bodies ,as it means they can't co-opt the word woman for themselves.

Was inspired by Hele, Roses and Daisies to fill my day with something useful. Thanks @igmum for the idea.

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Cancer research does it right imho. Inclusive without deleting the main groups.

NHS and others should take a note

This is so wrong. And I’m so sorry you had such a bad experience. Women need to complain more. In your case I consider it physical assault what happened to you.

No matter what though you must not let it prevent you from further screening and tests. I had pre cancer spotted from a random annual smear, then they did a biopsy to confirm, followed by laser treatment. That’s more than 20 years ago and my experience was vastly different to what happened to you.

which is more productive you sneering at women on a woman’s board, in the feminist section where women are discussing women’s particular health problems and trying to make sure women do their smear tests and have clarity of language or you sneering at us

I think advocating for clear language in health education is a great use of my time, thanks.

Pregnant women isn’t accurate? Ok, can you tell us the names of some men who have been pregnant then? Was it your mum or your dad who gave birth to you?

“It’s not about gender identity, it’s plain science” - only women, however they identify, have ever been pregnant. Women for the whole of history and all over the world are oppressed and often enslaved on the basis of that unique reproductive capacity.

using opaque language is NOT “more inclusive” - it excludes women with English as an additional language, women with learning difficulties or women with a low standard of reading or education. When uptake of cervical screening is at an all time low, that is harmful. And an Australian study showed that dehumanising language for women was indeed harmful.

if it was genuinely about inclusion we would see men’s health campaigns re written to refer to prostate owners, people with testicles, and the ejaculating parent in order to include trans women. And yet we never, never see this. It’s because it’s not about inclusion, the aim is to separate being a woman from being female and then womanhood is something male people can colonise. The patriarchy thanks you for your service.

Thank you.
I'm glad your smear did what it was supposed to.
20 years ago they checked for cell changes, now they only check for the presence of HPV which comes and goes so how does it help if you have a smear when your HPV is in remission?
Know I have had HPV, it's on my medical records so my doctor should know, so how does testing for it but not cell changes help?

I have major anxiety about going and find it incredibly difficult to get up the courage while I can't understand the benefit.

Then MN should refuse the payment to post it? or insist on a content change.