The absolute brass neck of Ruth Hunt

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No. You're not going to get to rewrite history.

The brass neck in action.

"TWAW and that's not up for debate" 👀

"We are conceding..."

Oh, conceding were you? So you held all the cards and you were offering us crumbs from the table?

Very telling. This decision to talk to The Times might be the worst one she ever made.

https://x.com/berkhamstead/status/1779121548198056308?s=46&t=WHoOZZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

Truth and reconciliation carries expectations. They're for when it's over and you need to live with the consequences.

Golden bridges aren't conditional. They're part of managing ongoing conflict.

Depending on the state of play, golden bridges can be essential if people aren't to double down. And we're seeing escape from some (Ruth Hunt) and doubling down from others (Nancy Kelley).

I don't know what the strategic play is here. My instinct is that all of this is a long way from over and it's golden bridges all the way.

Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.

I can't really find the words to express the contempt I have for Ruth Hunt and everyone at Stonewall. The fact that she is now sitting in the House of Lords at tax payers expense is unbelievable.

I've been in contact with some of the Tavistock whistleblowers in my search for support for my gender dysphoric child because I knew the NHS couldn't be trusted. They're good people trying to do their best in a terrible situation and this fucking waste of space could have stopped this shit. She's indirectly responsible for some of the worst times in my life. Stonewall and Mermaids have blood on their hands.

Wasn’t it around 2015/ 2016 when Stonewall went through all their policies to make them “trans friendly” and then launched their new strategy? I remember being told this in work, with Stonewall’s example being held up as what we should be doing too. I’d say the event in which that was said would have been around 2017, certainly no later than 2018.

It messes with my mind when you use wrong-sexed pronouns for Whittle.

Better take it up with MNHQ then, because posts get deleted, and posters potentially banned, for using correct-sex pronouns for trans-identifying people.

This is the heart of it. As Helen Joyce says, if you think 2+2=5 then you destroy maths. All of it. Forever. I regard anyone who says TWAW as a complete nutter who is not to be trusted or believed on anything, at all, ever. If you swallow that demonstrable lie then what other fucking nonsense will you accept?

She absolutely reeks of privilege in that clip.

Golden bridges get reserved for people who aren't responsible to this degree.

The people who don't get golden bridges have to be explicitly those at the Tavistock Inc Carmichael, Susie Green, Ruth Hunt, Nancy Kelley and Stonewall and Mermaids as organisations.

These are those who had the most responsibility for this car crash and had the power to put a stop to it. Others were caught up in the movement. These were the movement leadership.

Apparently higher - uppers are discussing criminal investigation into some key figures, including Ruth Hunt.

Good.

Who are the higher-uppers? CPS?

I doubt the Police could investigate, given their own perspectives and actions.

Professional bodies? Which ones? Look at the attitudes of the Royal Colleges, including the RCPCH that tried to cancel CAN-SG.

Good. This is why there can be no golden bridge. Unlike the GIDS scandal, proper examination of all the facts must take place first, before any action is decided on.

It’s so similar to the Post Office situation.

People in charge claiming they were mislead and couldn’t possibly have known what was going on, while smearing the people who were shouting PLEASE CAN YOU ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS? I THINK SOMETHING IS VERY WRONG!

Which higher-uppers in which organisations do you mean, Heylo?

Many people who spoke up had their lives ruined. I don't think you can give Ruth Hunt and her ilk a golden bridge if she's not acknowledging her part in demonising dissenters and whistleblowers. If we accept her version of events, and James O'Brien's, and all the other people who are behaving as Victoria Smith predicted and claiming/implying that it was GCs with their toxicity who stopped anyone realising it was a bad idea to give life-changing medical interventions to confused kids - if we give all these people golden bridges, we give credibility to a poisonous and deeply unjust lie.

Anyone who wants to candidly and honestly explain how they came to behave the way they did, I think we can accept the explanation. That's enough of a golden bridge.

We need to learn from mistakes and deter people from doing similar in future.

The Tavistock carried out unethical treatment but this would have been flagged much sooner if it hadn't been enabled by people who vilified and demonised whistleblowers.

We need a culture where whistleblowing is encouraged and valued every bit as much as golden bridges might be applicable to some. But that requires holding key players to account.

Ruth Hunt is a key player.

She's a fucking cowardly lying liar.

I remember the outcry of Stonewall telling everyone to shred Transgender Trend's pack. And mother on here being advised to take them into their children's school personally.

Absolutely desperate stuff.

And just so we're fucking crystal clear, Ruth Hunt. Among other things, you employed Amy Challoner, a male individual, married to a paedophile, who was deemed incapable of understanding safeguarding.

Whilst in 2018 Stephanie Davies-Arai, was shortlisted for the John Maddox Prize which “recognises the work of individuals who promote sound science and evidence on a matter of public interest, facing difficulty or hostility in doing so.”

The same year stonewall branded the pack as “dangerous” material, “masquerading as a professional, ‘evidence-based’ advice. One thing we want every educator to be clear on is that they must have nothing to do with this deeply damaging publication.”

And because pictures say a thousand words

'a generation of lesbians were maimed by this evil. 89% of Tav girl patients were same sex attracted.'

Alex Drummond - "I bring out the inner lesbian in women".

A male individual, on your fucking advisory board, who went into schools to tell children that he, and other males like him, are lesbians.

One of those pictures leads directly to the other.

And if Ruth Hunt is going to blame Polly Carmichael. I should imagine that Polly Carmichael might have some receipts.

I'll be fucking delighted to watch them take lumps out of each other.

"I've always been deeply concerned about the internalised homophobia that is going on for young women that means they think they can't be a dyke, and they've got to be a boy".

Until now I'd somehow imagined that Ruth Hunt was too stupid and self-righteous to understand what was happening.

But this, this is real wickedness. No other word for it.

She didn't just stand by, she lit the match and fanned the flames while the wildfires spread.

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The bare faced cheek continues.

Whilst many of us are still frustrated by the inequalities in our society, we also know that there are escalating levels of distrust and division. A positive, sustainable and more equal society absolutely relies on us all taking action – but that can only come about through conversations, across divides and between groups; deeds and words

In the early 20th century, the suffragettes, who were a group campaigning for women's right to vote in the UK, were frustrated by the lack of progress made through established tactics such as lobbying and petitioning. Their motto was Deeds not words.

I missed this paragraph

Our deeds, our words
In the early 20th century, the suffragettes, who were a group campaigning for women's right to vote in the UK, were frustrated by the lack of progress made through established tactics such as lobbying and petitioning. Their motto was Deeds not words.

Whilst many of us are still frustrated by the inequalities in our society, we also know that there are escalating levels of distrust and division. A positive, sustainable and more equal society absolutely relies on us all taking action – but that can only come about through conversations, across divides and between groups; deeds and words.

Ah so what this is really about is protecting her latest grift because it's rather embarrassing to be caught out for not engaging brain and doing something or listening to women who you've actively gone out your way to disenfranchise....

Well, they either have no clients or they're hiding them. I wonder which it is?