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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

A good time for a thread to note all the companies, charities and celebrities that jumped onto the Trans bandwagon without any care for the children being harmed [title edited]

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MsFogi · 12/04/2024 15:45

So we (and they) don't forget and to assist any journalists who are working on stories. I'll get the ball rolling:

Now the CASS report is out it may be time to revisit the part the Dentons' advice played in all of this - does anyone have a copy? | Mumsnet

[[https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-document-that-reveals-the-remarkable-tactics-of-trans-lobbyists https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-docu...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5048558-now-the-cass-report-is-out-it-may-be-time-to-revisit-the-part-the-dentons-advice-played-in-all-of-this-does-anyone-have-a-copy?reply=134483032

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ChristinaXYZ · 19/04/2024 21:25

mrshoho · 12/04/2024 16:08

Girl guides

There's a petition re the Guides if anyone is interested. It is on the Citizen Go GB website. https://www.citizengo.org/en-gb

CitizenGO

Citizengo is a community of active citizens that seeks to promote the participation of society in politics.

https://www.citizengo.org/en-gb

HoneyButterPopcorn · 20/04/2024 09:19

Oh my god - GG has a badge with the whole shebang flag (rainbow extender plus O). What the he’ll do the girls have to do to get that one?

so we’ve gone from knitting and homemaking (back in the day) to homophobia and misogyny badge?

turbonerd · 20/04/2024 09:59

I tried very hard to forget that Alice Roberts went TWAW. Just sad that, really.

TheUsualChaos · 20/04/2024 12:02

Alice Roberts?? Please no 😞

TheUsualChaos · 20/04/2024 12:04

I have to try and turn a blind eye to GG as DD loves it and it does her a lot of good. Thankfully the girls are blissfully unaware of all this and this far it just hasn't been an issue, in our unit at least. That's not to say I'm not utterly appalled with GG on a national level.

HoneyButterPopcorn · 20/04/2024 14:52

GG?

TheUsualChaos · 20/04/2024 14:56

Girl Guiding

Clarencefloss · 20/04/2024 18:52

HoneyButterPopcorn · 20/04/2024 09:19

Oh my god - GG has a badge with the whole shebang flag (rainbow extender plus O). What the he’ll do the girls have to do to get that one?

so we’ve gone from knitting and homemaking (back in the day) to homophobia and misogyny badge?

Cultural Marxism at its best . Dismantling the nuclear family and building a utopia of bots. How utterly disgraceful this institution has also succumbed to the insanity. We are pretty much doomed as a species. Maybe Mother Nature by proxy is intervening to reset life on earth. It’s all fucked let’s face it.

SinnerBoy · 21/04/2024 05:46

Please don't use "Cultural Marxism," it's Nazi era code for "The Jews."

motheronthedancefloor · 21/04/2024 07:27

Sport England
Arts council England
Royal society of chemistry
Greater London authority
Met police

SidewaysOtter · 21/04/2024 07:49

TheUsualChaos · 20/04/2024 12:02

Alice Roberts?? Please no 😞

I try to ignore it, because I really like her books and TV programmes. But every time she refers to a female skeleton I mentally scream “OH SO YOU KNOW WHAT A WOMAN IS NOW, DO YOU ALICE?”

I have a mutual acquaintance with her and apparently she’s very nice so I try to let the TWAW wash over me.

FrancescaContini · 21/04/2024 08:13

tobee · 12/04/2024 16:28

Yes. On their vans. Unmistakable surgery scars where breasts should have been. As a cartoon, FFS.

FrancescaContini · 21/04/2024 08:15

SidewaysOtter · 21/04/2024 07:49

I try to ignore it, because I really like her books and TV programmes. But every time she refers to a female skeleton I mentally scream “OH SO YOU KNOW WHAT A WOMAN IS NOW, DO YOU ALICE?”

I have a mutual acquaintance with her and apparently she’s very nice so I try to let the TWAW wash over me.

I can’t see past it once someone says they believe TWAW. They’ve lost credibility.

CorruptedCauldron · 21/04/2024 08:53

I don’t think Alice Roberts said TWAW but she did say something about sex not being a straightforward binary.

HoneyButterPopcorn · 21/04/2024 10:37

I think she did - I’m guessing there will be a thread about it.

She also goads religious people (didn’t she send out snippy tweets on Easter?) - so much for being ‘humanitarian’.

HowdidImanagetohavetwoaccountaandthenloseboth · 21/04/2024 19:47

Rainbows are the youngest members of girl guides and have been around for at least 35 years I think . Unless you have found a trans badge syllabus in which case I may shriek loudly ….

ScrollingLeaves · 21/04/2024 20:19

All the libraries doing drag Queen story hour for small children.

The Tate in its teaching materials and also doing drag Queen story time.

Windwwwash · 21/04/2024 22:08

InvisibleDuck · 12/04/2024 20:23

I think this might be the worst one on this thread. A woman in crisis wants to speak to another woman and the policy isn't just that it can't be guaranteed and she gets whichever volunteer is free, but to actively ensure she doesn't get the kind of support she needs.

As someone who once called them when I was in a very dark place (many years ago, long before all the pronoun nonsense) I find this really upsetting. Well done for standing by your principles and leaving.

I’m a Samaritan and either your training was terrible or you misunderstood. We can rarely transfer callers, because of practical reasons about the set-ups of our rooms, but we would never ever insist on a female caller being moved to a man. And we are also explicitly told to never move a man to a female Samaritan, because why would a male caller need that (unless for sexual, and thus call-ending, reasons)?

Likewise, we don’t even ask the sex of a caller, let alone pronouns.

Again, I’m not sure if you had terrible training, but this sounds a bit like a conscious and untrue slur. (Really fucking hate Samaritans’ social media posturing and lying around trans stuff, though. I console myself that the vast majority of callers don’t ever talk about those issues though, and we’re there for them.)

Delphin · 21/04/2024 23:40

Zeugma · 13/04/2024 00:26

Ludicrously enough, the knitting site Ravelry.

Ravelry seems to be a special case. The website itself is not affected much, except for a few rainbow smileys/icons on offer and a pronouns field in the user profile. One of the founders decided to transition a few years back, and it caused something of a meltdown behind the scenes. That founder is still part of their team, but has no contact with the user population anymore. It seems that the team decided to remain strictly focused on knitting and crocheting. My impression at least, as a semi regular.

SapphireSeptember · 22/04/2024 12:34

ResisterRex · 12/04/2024 16:24

Wickes
John Lewis

Add to that Screwfix and B&Q who put the flags out every June. Toolstation annoy me based on how they treat female employees being sexually harassed by male customers, Homebase seem to be sensible.

Boots, Superdrug and Barry M.

UltraLiteLife · 22/04/2024 12:41

ScrollingLeaves · 21/04/2024 20:19

All the libraries doing drag Queen story hour for small children.

The Tate in its teaching materials and also doing drag Queen story time.

British Library. <sigh>

SapphireSeptember · 22/04/2024 14:16

Action Aid UK, for supposedly wanting to stop young girls in developing countries being forced into marriage and undergoing FGM, but forgetting what the words 'woman' and 'girl' mean.

Dineasair · 22/04/2024 16:29

Charlize Theron threatening to beat up women for not supporting drag queens sexualising children, Cupid Stunt!

SinnerBoy · 22/04/2024 17:16

What?