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A good time for a thread to note all the companies, charities and celebrities that jumped onto the Trans bandwagon without any care for the children being harmed [title edited]

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MsFogi · 12/04/2024 15:45

So we (and they) don't forget and to assist any journalists who are working on stories. I'll get the ball rolling:

Now the CASS report is out it may be time to revisit the part the Dentons' advice played in all of this - does anyone have a copy? | Mumsnet

[[https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-document-that-reveals-the-remarkable-tactics-of-trans-lobbyists https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-docu...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5048558-now-the-cass-report-is-out-it-may-be-time-to-revisit-the-part-the-dentons-advice-played-in-all-of-this-does-anyone-have-a-copy?reply=134483032

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highame · 14/04/2024 12:08

Women & Equalities Caroline Noakes and Carolyn Harris being probably the worst offenders. So angry about them. Writing to my MP

Ferretaria · 14/04/2024 14:06

Etsy
Goldsmiths

Giggorata · 14/04/2024 15:55

Cook'd and Bomb'd
Reddit

Clarencefloss · 14/04/2024 20:02

highame · 14/04/2024 12:08

Women & Equalities Caroline Noakes and Carolyn Harris being probably the worst offenders. So angry about them. Writing to my MP

Absolutely we all need to write to MPs and the charities commission and anyone else who will have to at least acknowledge our concern. Don’t leave it to someone else.

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 14/04/2024 20:18

BBC

JeannieDark · 15/04/2024 10:08

The Women Hold Up Half the Sky page book page, I know it's just a Facebook page but it has over 560k followers and has previously had some interesting content. But recently has started to post more TWAW stuff, including this today:

A good time for a thread to note all the companies, charities and celebrities that jumped onto the Trans bandwagon without any care for the children being harmed [title edited]
catscatscurrantscurrants · 15/04/2024 10:28

David Tennant, Eddie Izzard, Lush, Body Shop, Wickes, Benefit, Costa, Keir Starmer, David Lammy, Snag, Tampax, Budweiser

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 15/04/2024 10:41

ResisterRex · 12/04/2024 22:40

I definitely ❤Eleanor Scott after reading couple of those blogs. And after reading the one about the question and answer session that wasn't, Mordaunt is even worse than I realised.

Clarencefloss · 16/04/2024 23:09

MsFogi · 12/04/2024 15:45

So we (and they) don't forget and to assist any journalists who are working on stories. I'll get the ball rolling:

Davina McCall. Watch her latest interview on Kellie J on utube. Utter cringe

Clarencefloss · 16/04/2024 23:14

MsFogi · 12/04/2024 15:45

So we (and they) don't forget and to assist any journalists who are working on stories. I'll get the ball rolling:

Davina McCall. See her interview on utube with KJ it’s astounding

goodnessmeandgosh · 17/04/2024 06:06

Oh yes she is utterly revolting and so is the Emma Watson one.

HoneyButterPopcorn · 17/04/2024 08:17

Helena Kennedy. Did we already say her?

crunchermuncher · 17/04/2024 09:00

Clarencefloss · 16/04/2024 23:09

Davina McCall. Watch her latest interview on Kellie J on utube. Utter cringe

After all the campaigning Davi a did to raise awareness of menopause issues, you'd think she'd have some grasp of what sex is and why some stuff is only relevant to women. Depressing.

MsFogi · 17/04/2024 18:27

HoneyButterPopcorn · 17/04/2024 08:17

Helena Kennedy. Did we already say her?

This was hugely disappointing in the reboot of Eve Was Framed.
Caitlin Moran has been tumbleweed on the topic forever - it would be good if she finally had the balls to speak up in her column now.

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teawamutu · 17/04/2024 20:17

MsFogi · 17/04/2024 18:27

This was hugely disappointing in the reboot of Eve Was Framed.
Caitlin Moran has been tumbleweed on the topic forever - it would be good if she finally had the balls to speak up in her column now.

Even if she did, I'm clean out of fucks where she's concerned. She's an empty vessel who barks the mantra like an obedient sealion if it means she's down wiv da kids. Why waste any more seconds on her, even if she finds a new bandwagon?

Clarencefloss · 19/04/2024 00:40

MsFogi · 12/04/2024 15:45

So we (and they) don't forget and to assist any journalists who are working on stories. I'll get the ball rolling:

Support the petition to remove hunt
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crunchermuncher · 19/04/2024 09:52

JeannieDark · 15/04/2024 10:08

The Women Hold Up Half the Sky page book page, I know it's just a Facebook page but it has over 560k followers and has previously had some interesting content. But recently has started to post more TWAW stuff, including this today:

I don't want to derail but if you feel brave enough you could post some facts, such as:

Lia Thomas won the NCAA 500 yards freestyle ahead of 3 female olympic silver medallists. Their pre transistion self would never even have qualified for the NCAA men's races let alone made a final.

Taking testosterone suppressing drugs as Lia did does not undo the benefits of male puberty- these are irreversible:

-Taller
-Greater heart and lung capacity
-Longer arms & bigger hands (both relevant to swimming power)
-Longer legs with narrower pelvis (more efficient at running&swimming with less chance of injury)
-Higher proportion of fast twitch muscle fibres which produce explosive power

It's also interesting to consider that natal women found to be over the IOC maximum testosterone limit, indicating doping, receive a 4 year ban. If a trans women is found to be over, they get a 1 year ban. Why the discrimination against natal women? Clearly the Ioc recognises the sporting benefits of testosterone, or it wouldn't be a banned substance for natal women.

I have never heard of a trans woman advocating for removal of sex categories in sport altogether, which surely would make sense if sex really did make no difference. I guess its because in that scenario, all sport would be dominated by the top men, and the trans women we see in women's sport could never compete against them.

Plus, no validation from being in the women's category. But it's not about that. Apparently 🙄

JeannieDark · 19/04/2024 10:18

@crunchermuncher I really wish I could. I'm not brave enough unfortunately as my work could be affected. I also don't have the mental resilience right now to deal with the inevitable pile on I would get from the page followers. I wish I was braver and could do it.

crunchermuncher · 19/04/2024 10:51

JeannieDark · 19/04/2024 10:18

@crunchermuncher I really wish I could. I'm not brave enough unfortunately as my work could be affected. I also don't have the mental resilience right now to deal with the inevitable pile on I would get from the page followers. I wish I was braver and could do it.

I totally get what you're saying, I am in the same boat 😞 you can only do what you can do.

At least if we post things here some people will see it and think about it.

porridgecake · 19/04/2024 11:03

Clarencefloss · 19/04/2024 00:40

Support the petition to remove hunt
change.org Ruth Hunt'

I have tried twice to sign this petition without success. I unsubscribed from change.org a while ago because they were bombarding me with good law project stuff. I wonder if that is why?

SidewaysOtter · 19/04/2024 14:18

UCU;
Greggs (no, I do not need pronoun badges with my morning coffee);
Intrepid Travel, who allocate room shares on the basis of gender stated on passport not biological sex.

WinterTrees · 19/04/2024 14:32

Did anyone say Joanne Harris yet? Author and head/chief witchfinder of the Society of Authors.

Waitwhat23 · 19/04/2024 14:46

Or Clara Vulliamy, who has been quite extraordinarily vitriolic towards Rachel Rooney.

SinnerBoy · 19/04/2024 17:56

Along with Amnesty, Liberty.

Alice Roberts, who really should have the scientific reasoning to know better.

Penny Mordaunt.

Sir Cowardy Custard Judas Starmer.