Final Report Cass Review now published

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Dr Hilary Cass has submitted her final report and recommendations to NHS England in her role as Chair of the Independent Review of gender identity services for children and young people.

Download from https://cass.independent-review.uk/home/publications/final-report/

This is the most shocking part to me.

They knew. They damn well knew.

Let’s face it. The same posters who scold us for having the discussions, for not posting in a way that they personally prefer to read (making the content thereby not worthy of engagement), are going to scold us whatever we do. They will always scold us and never positively contribute to any thread because they can’t. Their thing is to scold and admonish from the side line.

That's brilliant @mrshoho

Thank goodness you were careful, diligent in your research, firm in protecting your daughter. Well done. Give yourself a massive slap on the back today.
Very relieved for you and your daughter. Hopefully she will continue to develop independence and live her best life.

I saw tweets about the ‘disregarded’ evidence last night. It comes down to the fact that they don’t think the evidence can ever reach the high quality mark and that it is an unreasonable burden.

My reading donor is that there isn't enough data (if any at all) AND read alongside the statements that other known conditions that required psycho therapy support were negated in favour of referring to Gids.

So if you haven't tried to diagnose and provide care for known underlying conditions such as ASD, depression, anxiety then there is no evidence as to whether therapy on its own for gender incongruence can be helpful.

Because most if not all patients don't just have gender incongruence as an isolated diagnosis.

Thank you Dr Cass, and thank you Mumsnetters. I’ve been reading these boards for years and have been deeply impressed by the diligence, attention to detail and grasp of the issues that some posters have. Let’s hope this helps to protect children and open the eyes of those who have swallowed this ideology whole. It’s absolutely shocking how it’s managed to get such a stranglehold on power and influence. It’s taken such courage for people to say no, and I hope those whose livelihoods and relationships have been destroyed for resisting can take some comfort from the report.

Guardian starting the counterinsurgency:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/apr/10/mother-criticises-agenda-from-above-cass-report-trans

Have written to my MSPs linking to the report. And telling them that they cannot claim not to have known and they must now step up for the children of Scotland, do their job and protect them.

I think there needs to be an enquiry into GIDs and how it operated and why the usual oversight in the NHS failed

If there are any children who have been harmed then people need to be held accountable.

There needs to be serious scrutiny of schools and teachers unions next. Alarming to say the least that their response is to double down. Keeping secrets from parents should be illegal.

In general psychotherapy isn’t very effective on its own, and certainly not what is available via NHS as it’s so time constrained and very one size fits all.
Therapy available to children in the UK is hard to access and is basically useless. Many parents report their child’s mental health deteriorating under the “care” of CAMHS.
Aimed at teens hell bent on being the gender of their choosing (and I was an autistic teen once, the level of commitment to an obsession is phenomenal) I can’t see therapy being of any use at all.

Testing

Hilariously I was logged out of mn for posting too much

Hannah Barnes was interviewed by Emma Barnett on woman's hour 👏

Is that shock at Hannah on wh or me being put on naughty step for over posting?!

You would have had a wh thread if I'd been able to post for the last half hour!

I'm on premium too, should be able to post as much as I want!!

James O' Brien is being his usual obtuse, misogynistic and patronising self on LBC. I put it on just to see if he was mentioning the Cass review and had to switch it off again.

Ah it's an automatic feature to stop spamming 😂

I was clearly acting like a spammer

What was he saying before you switched off in digust?

Re the feeble attempts to “both sides” this issue. Gender-critical women have NOT contributed to any so-called toxicity.
We never created a climate of fear. We didn’t cancel people or threaten to physically harm or sexually assault them. We didn’t wear masks, bang drums in police horses’ faces, punch elderly people, swear at babies, or carry placards saying “decapitate trans rights activists”. We just argued for our right to define women as females, as a reality-based sex class and not a magical feeling in someone’s head. We called for the preservation of single-sex spaces for reasons of safety, dignity and privacy. We wanted fairness in women’s sports and other competitive arenas. We argued for the safeguarding of children, and for them to be protected from unnecessary medical interventions.

Gender-critical women have been perfectly reasonable from day one. You can’t “both sides” this unless you have the receipts.

Yes! I find this terrifying!
I recently met a GP in a social setting, and the subject of trans health came up (I wasn’t the only TERF there, there was quite a conversation).
I felt that trans health as TRAs want it puts trans people at risk, as there is no reference to their sex, only their gender, so invitations to sex based screenings may be missed, pregnancies may be missed etc. The GP was angry at this and adamant that trans people are whatever they say they are, and should be treated as such (he wasn’t Adrian Harrop - there are more like him!). The subject of the Cass review came up, and his stance was that whatever it reported he would be sticking to his guns and not changing his approach, and that he wasn’t alone.
I would hope that in light of the Cass review that personal opinions won’t have any place against well researched evidence.
In education I’m not sure as an institution that it’s robust enough to take the knocking that doubling down to ideological nonsense could cause.

No evidence of harm. That is what he took from the review.

A huge issue is going to be how various bits are cherry picked by different people

Seriously?

Does he have a trans family member, do we think?

I find this really shocking because when it comes to other issues such as Brexit he was much more rigorous.

Apparently evidence is only admissible when it supports his point of view.