Final Report Cass Review now published

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Dr Hilary Cass has submitted her final report and recommendations to NHS England in her role as Chair of the Independent Review of gender identity services for children and young people.

Download from https://cass.independent-review.uk/home/publications/final-report/

lol. What other countries are publishing a four year long report into children affected by trans ideology?

And who do you think have been the greatest challengers to the ideology in the first place?

That's right, Mumsnet.

The clue is in the name.

Interview with Dr Hilary Cass 7:30 am bbc r4 Today programme www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/5046945-interview-with-dr-hilary-cass-730-am-bbc-r4-today-programme

Today programme all over this

One thing that I was really relieved to see discussed yesterday was that it as suggested that Cass would recommend no medical intervention until 25. I don't see that today, have I missed it or is it not there?

If we're going to reflect on this report honestly and objectively, we also need to own that this branch of Mumsnet has played a part in that polarisation of public debate.

Congratulations on the speed of your pathetic "Mumsnet made me do it" excuse for the poor behaviour of your fellow gender fantasists. It's a bit weak though and I hope you'll find better excuses in the coming days.

I think it's the services designed for children should extend to 25.

However, I suspect it may be legally more challenging after 18. But if the below is the underlying premise, it sounds like it's going to be very cautious?

Yes. It is good to keep it all together to have the progression recorded.

Are you suggesting that Starmer will be going to the TRAs with the "it was the Cass report big boys who made me do it"? Wow! What a fabulous prime minister he won't make.

Crikey!

When Mumsnet posters have been saying pretty much what Cass has just said, I think you might be giving in to your own prejudiced view there. And rather hypocritical there in the ‘polarised’ view. But hey, you do you!

It's the top story in the gooniad! I hope they will be apologising to all the journalists they drove out. And someone needs to check on poor little oj, he is not going to be ok this morning.

Just had time to skim read this.

Two standout points for me.

GIDS refused to provide its data to Cass. And the graphs showing the rise in referrals only go from 2009 to 2016 (showing a sharp rise in adolescent females) because GIDS stopped recording referrals by birth sex after 2016.

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To me that reads like GIDS knew full well that what they were doing was highly unethical, did it anyway and have tried to cover their tracks.

Ha! Wedged open the Overton window, more like.

I was horrified to read that they had stopped collecting data on the sex of the referrals.

That seems dangerous, dishonest and obfuscating.

Why would they have stopped recording birth sex? Surely that would need to be stated somewhere in a patient's notes so people knew what the transition was from and to. Genuinely don't understand that being left out unless it was ideological and thought to be detrimental to the patient to record something they were actively trying to move away from.

I'm sorry but no.

It's the whole, "Ukraine should seek peace with Russia" argument.

Ukraine has been defending itself on its own land. This war didn't need to happen. It could have been stopped at any point by the Russians. Ukraine can't just stop the war as otherwise Russia would have been in Kyiv.

MN was the defensive line. Women and children were under attack. We did not shift position in politics. We didn't want to change language. We didn't want to remove the rights of another group. We did not want to replace sex with gender. We did not want to undermine ethical medical practice. We did not want to bring ideology into medicine or education.

We stood exactly stock still whilst we had bricks thrown at us. We did not threaten on MN.

Other social media might have. Other groups might have.

But NOT MN.

We just called it for what it was. A cult like ideology which has no scientific basis which has come after women and kids.

I'm not going to 'own anything' other than say, MN has been saying everything in that goddam report for years and every attempt was made to stop us from saying those things.

I will not allow MN to be vilified in this.

GIDS refused to provide its data to Cass. And the graphs showing the rise in referrals only go from 2009 to 2016 (showing a sharp rise in adolescent females) because GIDS stopped recording referrals by birth sex after 2016.

To me that's an indication of when the lobby groups and cultists took over. I smell mermaids in particular

Has there been any response yet from any high profile TRA's ?

Recommendation for no medical intervention until after 25 is an interesting one for universities to have to deal with on a number of levels...

I agree 100%, which thinking about it is horrifying. They knew they were causing harm, irreparable harm.
@saraclara posters here have been talking about this for years, getting threats and being hounded for speaking out for protecting children. There is no both sides are as bad as each other.

@saraclara why do you support sterilisation of children?

That's a very forgiving way of looking at it.

I suspect it might have been more because they knew their own data was very compelling evidence to support the rapid onset gender dysphoria theory trans activists claim has been debunked, and so they decided to stop collecting and recording it.

Will catch up on R4 later, but currently listening to Times Radio.

Discussion with safeguarding minister just after 7am news. She was a bit weak to be honest, taking a we will look at the recommendations carefully line. Adam Boulton was all over it though. In a conversation between presenters at about 7:15, he pointed out that the embargoed report had been available for some days and so it was disappointing that the Safeguarding minister kept referring to the interim report, and didn't appear to have read the final version.

Times Radio have David Bell on after 8.

Thank you, this has really helped me reframe some of my thinking.

I can't find anything yet. P News is all quiet too.

Malcolm Clark AT TwisterFilm
The Cass Review looks likely to prove pontificating celebrities like David Tennant have not been the good guys they kept saying they were. Imagine lecturing the public to ignore kids with mental health conditions. “You absolute freaks”.

How can MN have a shared responsibility to this? Seriously?

MN criticised this type of behaviour for good reason. Cos ethical and clinical practice was binned and undue pressure applied and whistleblowers actively villified.

Please explain to me how, MN shares responsibility for silencing essential whistleblowing?