Teen boy avoids jail after rape of girl, 12

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A TEENAGE boy has been handed a youth rehabilitation order after raping a 12-year-old girl who has since died in Kidlington.

Addressing the boy, Judge Lamb said: “I’m not sure it’s right to say that you were selfish but you were not kind and you need to understand that women and girls need to be treated with respect…respect and care.”

https://www.thisisoxfordshire.co.uk/news/24234880.teen-boy-avoids-jail-rape-girl-12-kidlington/?ref=twtrec

What sort of idiotic language is this. Rape isn't a very kind thing to do.

Please, stop spreading nonsense about brain maturity.
One media worker did not understand scientific paper and the snowball started. We are physically developing/ maturing into our 20s. however that is a spectrum too, our bodies including brain are constantly changing regardless of age. It has nothing to do with boys and men being unable to understand why rape is 'not kind'.
According to the article it was said he has loving and supporting family.
We also know that, on average, boys see porn for the first time at age 10. There were at least two rape and murder cases that involved 13 years old boys. Their victims were their female schoolmates.
Girls and women are en masse victimised by boys and men. Often by brothers and fathers. Corston's report was published almost 20 years ago. Prisons are full of women who are beaten and raped their whole lives. and their crimes usually do not involve harm to another human being.
I am tired, when it comes to male violence against women and girls the approach too often is grey. Maybe we should start thinking in black and white categories. When it comes to sentencing of women and girls no one asks questions and approach is very much black and white. Men and boys can rely on all shades of grey.

because he is a teenager, because she was provocative, because his father did not love him, because she was there, because women and girls are just lesser human beings responsible for all sins.
Yes, I am angry.

Should have been put to a secure unit then onto young offenders.fucking little monster.

And we wonder why people have no faith in our institutions.

We need to have these institutions to maintain a civilised and developed society, but at the moment they seem to be fucking up at regular intervals. This case. Scottish hate crime law.

Her poor parents.

Thank you for your post @deragod (and the others in agreement that this sentencing is not ok) I think i was actually starting to feel gaslit (and that's not something I've ever put) with the "no, no, you're wrong, you're wrong, think of poor him, there's of course reasons why, we just have to look for them, poor boy".

Because they don't see it as important anymore apparently they have too many people in jails so are not going to put them away for it anymore.
Great so women can be raped, treated like dirt, made to feel worthless and scared and nothing happens to them.

Absolutely!

The facts of the case that we need to know are that he raped a 12 year old girl, and her life contracted from confident and outgoing and gregarious, to depressed and anxious and solitary.

She has since died - the details of her death not being made public - possibly ruled by the court that they can't be made public, and the only reason I can see for that being the case is that she is likely he has died as a direct or indirect result of what was done to her, and they are desperate to protect this POS from this being made known.

My heart aches for that poor little girl and her family. I can't imagine what they are going through.

Meanwhile that vile little shit gets off with "not being kind". Fecking weasel words that mask the horror and sheer terror of a sexual assault. "Not kind" my arse!

What did Bart Simpson say?

Something along the lines of "I can't promise I'll try,but I promise I'll try to try."

Yes, I am angry.

So am I @deragod

FUCKING angry!

Agree. "Won't anyone think of the CHILDREN!!, Well not those children, the female ones of course.... just the male ones and how we can make them the victims of their actions and ignore what they've done"

I just can't with this. That poor girl.

And this boy is getting the strong message from the judge that what he wants is more important than a girl's life.

We know letting boys and men get away with sexual crimes usually leads to escalation to more serious crimes. Letting him off isn't in his long-term best interests.

Maybe if Wayne Couzens had been arrested, charged and ended up in prison for indecent exposure he wouldn't have gone on to become a murderer.

This girl has been failed completely.

And the bar for boys is so bloody low, it's really upsetting.

Rapists honestly deserve to be put to death.

Thank you for reporting.

I don't know this girl's name but it doesn't lessen the sympathy I feel for her. She was just hanging out with her friend drinking lemonade in a park, because she was 12 years old. She had her drink spiked and them she was taken into the bushes by the boy 'for some fun'.

That was calculated, deliberate, and definite rape.

He should be in a YOI.

My heart absolutely breaks for her family.

It's infuriating,he destroyed this girl and the fuckwitted judge is talking about not being 'kind'.

I think that the judge was reflecting back some of the boy's own language re kindness/selfishness, but in doing so, made it appear as though he was downgrading the severity. The boy was also only 13 at the time if the offence, so i'm not sure that a custodial sentence would necessarily have been appropriate. It's absolutely tragic that the victim took her own life after this though. I think that it's probably a pretty complex case and that it's difficult to judge without having a lot more details and the court transcripts.

If he's old enough to spike a girls drink, get her compromised, and rape her, he's old enough to go to a YOI.

It's not just about him, it's justice for the victim's family (as she's sadly no longer here to see justice done) and wider society, this effectively sends a message that its fine to rape if you're 13.

No doubt he needs work done to address the reasons he targeted and raped a girl, but that should be in addition to his sentence. Imo.

I was astounded by the judges comments but on reading the whole thread and there's so many apologists for him, including someone who states they work with victims of rape, saying "ah but there's an excuse for it, poor them, the rapists the one we have to centre". Fuck sake.

Let's put it down to youthful exuberance eh?

There is room for considering the reasons the boy raped a girl. I'm not advocating prison or the death penalty. I can understand criminals may benefit from rehabilitation and that punishment alone may not be enough.

But the judge appears to have effectively completely discounted the devastating effect on the girl and her family, and wider society. As if it was inconsequential that she was raped, and devastated.

It's gross to see that disparity in consideration between the affect on the boy and on the girl.

I do find it depressing how in cases of rape perpetrated by a young man so many people - men and women - are desperate to minimise it and to try to mitigate the effects on the rapist. Even to the extent of holding the victim responsible (to varying degrees).

It is all very ‘promising young man’; can’t let this ruin his life. And so awful.

The language used by the judge here is beyond awful. At this point I loathe the concept of ‘kindness’. It’s insidious and the source of a lot of societal problems in 2024.

Fuck ‘kindness’. Let’s be ‘fair’ or ‘considerate’ or many other things. But I don’t think the overwhelming focus on kindness is at all helpful.

This is my contribution.

I practice Family Law, I am a mother to 3 daughters, one of whom is 12, I am a woman, but above all else, I'm a human.

Some of the responses on this thread have upset me more than when I read the story in the first place. Why am I always surprised by how many people want to excuse the behaviour of a rapist? I should have learned by now.

Thanks for that @PoisonMaple I'm going to do this today.

Yep

"Boys will be raping little bastards boys"