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KjK "insane rant" thread 2

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AdamRyan · 03/04/2024 18:10

First thread filled up just as it was getting interesting

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5036512-kjks-insane-rant

So let's keep it going. My characterisation if the two basic positions are:

1)KJK is a stone cold legend, haters gonna hate but many women will give her cash to bathe in champagne

  1. KJK is taking right wing positions for clicks and cash, most recently criticising a doctors conference to stay relevant.

Happy to discuss further. There are some particular posts I want to respond to which I will c&p below

KJK’s insane rant | Mumsnet

Kjk’s decision to attack everyone who is not her lapdog is increasingly destructive. It looks like Can-sg put on a great conference. Those doctors who...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5036512-kjks-insane-rant

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AdamRyan · 03/04/2024 23:38

Yes. They don't say what you think they say though. But feel free to spam away.

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SpicyMoth · 03/04/2024 23:45

AdamRyan · 03/04/2024 23:06

No. If you think the grooming gangs were left unchecked because people were scared of being called racist, then you've been uncritically imbibing too much right wing material.

I think they were left unchecked because misogyny is rampant, particularly towards girls in care, and because the criminal justice system in general is terrible on VAWG.

A view of "its Muslim culture" is overly simplistic, and inherently racist.

Unfortunately we are now in a position where "free speech" means people think any old prejudice that's in their head is "valid opinion".

Two things can be true at once.
Again, literally no one here is saying what you are saying, ie "its Muslim culture", please stop putting words in peoples mouths.

SpicyMoth · 03/04/2024 23:57

AdamRyan · 03/04/2024 23:32

Hmmm. What do people mean when they talk about "cultural differences" and "criticising religion" then? In the context of grooming gangs?

I am starting to see exactly why everyone is so baffled by why quite a lot of people outside the MN FWR bubble are perturbed by KJK. It's pretty blindingly obvious to me what "cultural differences" and repeated references to victim/offender ethnicity in limited cherry picked examples

"It's pretty blindingly obvious to me what "cultural differences" and repeated references to victim/offender ethnicity in limited cherry picked examples"

Okay, so lets go with somewhere not Muslim or Pakistani then, just to use an example of cultural differences being a thing backed up by statistics.
India is majority Hindu I believe, something like 70% ish, not Muslim majority - So no Islamophobia present.

Relatively recently a Spanish Blogger was gang raped by seven men whilst her husband was held at knife point. They were also robbed and beaten.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/3/four-arrested-after-spanish-tourist-on-india-motorcycle-tour-gang-raped
When this happened, it prompted Indian news outlets to talk about and discuss rape more openly saying they need to tackle how often it happens.
It was from this that I learned the devastating statistic that;
"An average of nearly 90 rapes were reported in India every day, meaning one woman was raped every 18 minutes, in 2022, according to the National Crime Records Bureau, which recorded 31,516 rape cases that year."
Those are just the rapes that go reported as well. I'm sure there's plenty that remain unreported.

If that's not a cultural difference then I really don't know what is, and what is valid to talk about and what isn't in your eyes :S
Or are Indian women not worthy of protection also?
I don't get why we're pretending that different cultures don't have different views and levels of what is acceptable within those cultures, or that different cultures view women in deeply misogynistic ways.
This is literally the feminism board. Indian women deserve feminism too.

Four arrested after Spanish blogger on India motorcycle tour gangraped

The couple had set up a tent to pass the night in Jharkhand state’s Dumka as seven men attacked them.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/3/four-arrested-after-spanish-tourist-on-india-motorcycle-tour-gang-raped

BackCats · 04/04/2024 00:33

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AdamRyan · 03/04/2024 23:38

Yes. They don't say what you think they say though. But feel free to spam away.

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You are the person on this thread who seems to be doing the spamming.

Your ability to find something that's just not there in just about every sentence put in front of you is something quite special!

Reading your posts lately has been like watching the old Microsoft screensaver that used to draw pipes then randomly add in a teapot every now and again.

Murica · 04/04/2024 01:31

I thought thread #1 had played out so I was surprised to see thread #2. Who wants more of this tedium? So I clicked on it.

Oh, makes sense.

BezMills · 04/04/2024 01:48

Stone. Cold. Legend.

EdithStourton · 04/04/2024 04:31

Boiledbeetle · 03/04/2024 22:17

I feel like this thread is full of posts that have been fed repeatedly through a universal translator from English to Esperanto to Urdu to Cantonese and back to English via French and Finnish.

Words and sentence structure have lost all meaning.

Yep.
I was trying to follow the thread but I don't think there is one, other than Adam is always right.

Honestly, I have no idea where Ad finds the time. I'm on holiday at the moment, and can't keep up.

WickedSerious · 04/04/2024 07:47

IcakethereforeIam · 03/04/2024 19:48

Spaghetti bolognese (homemade) and garlic flatbread (boughtEaster Blush).

We had some baking potatoes that needed to be used up so I made wedges.

Emotionalsupportviper · 04/04/2024 08:02

Boiledbeetle · 03/04/2024 22:17

I feel like this thread is full of posts that have been fed repeatedly through a universal translator from English to Esperanto to Urdu to Cantonese and back to English via French and Finnish.

Words and sentence structure have lost all meaning.

Oh, thank God it's not just me!

I really thought that my mind was going.

BezMills · 04/04/2024 08:15

The last thread was where
Economy of prose died
Stone cold legend, still

IcakethereforeIam · 04/04/2024 09:00

WickedSerious · 04/04/2024 07:47

We had some baking potatoes that needed to be used up so I made wedges.

Coincidentally, I'm planting potatoes today. Not baked ones though. Although, if you could just imagine the time it would save.

Serenea · 04/04/2024 09:05

Kellie-Jay repeats the "Muslims cut up girls and put them in kebabs" story that is straight out of the Tommy Robinson camp.

NoWordForFluffy · 04/04/2024 09:10

Serenea · 04/04/2024 09:05

Kellie-Jay repeats the "Muslims cut up girls and put them in kebabs" story that is straight out of the Tommy Robinson camp.

Have you got a link to that?

WickedSerious · 04/04/2024 09:15

IcakethereforeIam · 04/04/2024 09:00

Coincidentally, I'm planting potatoes today. Not baked ones though. Although, if you could just imagine the time it would save.

Time I could spend painting the skirting board in the hallway.

Or something equally exciting.

PurpleSparkledPixie · 04/04/2024 09:20

Crossed posted. I guess the whole news media is run by Tommy Robinson, did he buy out the Maxwells or Murdoch? I cant remember which.

Serenea · 04/04/2024 09:38

I'm not interested in getting into the kebab shop myth here, if you're truly interested in fighting for justice for Charlene please follow these accounts run by a wonderful woman who has been campaigning for the truth selflessly for 20 years now

https://www.justiceforcharlenedownes.co.uk/

https://x.com/MissingCharlene

https://t.co/n1acZdoxva (Facebook)

KjK "insane rant" thread 2
NecessaryScene · 04/04/2024 09:39

I'm not interested in getting into the kebab shop myth here

Then why did you bring it up here? You were the first person to mention it.

Myalternate · 04/04/2024 09:39

‘During the trial, the jury were played taped conversations in which it was alleged Mr Albattikhi joked that he killed the girl, that she was 'chopped up' and her body had 'gone in the kebabs'.

Maybe, just maybe, KJK believed the words spoken by the men accused of the child’s disappearance. Who knows 🤷‍♀️

NoWordForFluffy · 04/04/2024 09:49

Serenea · 04/04/2024 09:38

I'm not interested in getting into the kebab shop myth here, if you're truly interested in fighting for justice for Charlene please follow these accounts run by a wonderful woman who has been campaigning for the truth selflessly for 20 years now

https://www.justiceforcharlenedownes.co.uk/

https://x.com/MissingCharlene

https://t.co/n1acZdoxva (Facebook)

Why did you single out KJK as repeating what was alleged by barristers in Court as opposed to the entire MSM which also reported the story?

Why are you calling it a myth when it appears that's what the police and CPS appear to believe what happened?

I think you have an agenda.

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