I have to say that this thread has done nothing to overturn my previous view (that I've been repeatedly told is wrong) that FWR is now extremely cliquey, right wing and an echo chamber. I was asked a while ago for evidence of that. This thread and the previous one are absolute case in point.
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Flexing credentials about real life relationships, and being friends with banned members.
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Some truly shocking (now deleted) attitudes that noone even raised an eyebrow at.
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An anti-feminist, right wing man being used as an example of a victim.
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And a complete unwillingness, even when presented with KJKs own words, to say "oh that's a bit extreme".
This* *is a really unfair representation of this thread. You were trying to recall the early days before KJK became prominent. People joined in with the reminiscences, and said they are still in touch with those other women you seemed to be worried about. That they are still busy in various capacities.
You’ve said that’s evidence of cliqueyness, and that FWR has changed so very much, but- these are the same women. They were there then, still here now. Just because they remember things you don’t, doesn’t mean they’re a clique.
And are the women who left/were banned, left wing giants of the movement or are they a clique that started another place where they could talk without being censored for biological accuracy and discussing safeguarding? I haven’t scrolled back but think you’ve inferred both.
You’ve said KJK is clearly conservative though once she was a Labour Party member. Many women have become more conservative over this issue, including me, because labour have been actively targeting GC women. You may think shouting’only men have penises’ is yesterday’s shock tactic, but many of us still aren’t allowed to say that, court cases are underway about that, and Scotland doubled down on it earlier this week.
You’ve confused me Adam. (To be fair it’s easier than it used to be). I will not believe you are a bad faith actor, but you seem so entrenched in a particular position you literally can’t process what people are saying.
Unless I’ve confused you with someone else, you have been trapped in an illogical position before and fought your way free. Take a breath and consider that the other women here are not the enemy, not gullible, not bigoted- just less hardline than you on certain things and more hardline on others.
We are so close about so many things. Slight differences of emphasis don’t make anyone a pariah.