KjK "insane rant" thread 2

[AdamRyan]

First thread filled up just as it was getting interesting

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5036512-kjks-insane-rant

So let's keep it going. My characterisation if the two basic positions are:

1)KJK is a stone cold legend, haters gonna hate but many women will give her cash to bathe in champagne

2. KJK is taking right wing positions for clicks and cash, most recently criticising a doctors conference to stay relevant.

Happy to discuss further. There are some particular posts I want to respond to which I will c&p below

I don't know what isn't clear about what I said.

Neither do we. Your thought processes are all over the place tbh which makes it extremely difficult to have (or read) a conversation with you. No idea why that poor girl is still being talked about in here and I sincerely hope google doesn't link to this thread in the future, I really do. Using her as to point score is just sickening.

It is quite disgusting to see the death of a child used in this way. There is no rich family to complain about the links and detail of her death posted by the OP.

I’m not saying you should stop talking. You can spend every waking hour on Mumsnet if you like.

It just feels to me like a massive waste of your time and energy.

I can think of a lot of public figures I dislike tremendously and disagree with. I channel that feeling into not engaging with anything they say or do.

Thanks MNHQ for taking down that appalling conspiracy theory link about the death of a child.

Are you still wanging on? Jeez, you need a better hobby.

Hmmm. But not disgusting for KJK to do it on a much more widely viewed channel. Go figure.

I think the same about using her to imply that there are powerful people raping children. Apparently that's fine though.

Honestly, breathtaking double standards.

Why can’t Oxo cubes come ready crumbled 😤

There are powerful people raping children. There always has been And always will be.

There are also people in positions of power that allow known child rapists to carry on raping children. There always has been and there always will be.

Do you accept that is the case? Or do you think what I've just said is a pile of shit and never ever happens?

Buy Magi liquid, much better than getting to get an oxo cube unwrapped, plus you can shake it straight on chips as well and it's lush!

The age old question.

Apparently you're meant to smack them while they're still wrapped to break them up, not open them and try to crumble with your fingers.

I have NO idea where I got this nugget of info from. I may have made it up / dreamt it. 😬🤣

"...imply that there are powerful people raping children."

Chantelle aside, because I've not actually heard of this case at all before and from what I've seen of the case on this thread, It's not something I particularly want to look into whilst actively pregnant as it'll likely just make me very emotional;

Do you think powerful people aren't raping/abusing children just because there's also some conspiracy theories?
Did Jimmy Saville not happen?
Rolf Harris?
Jeffrey Epstein?
Prince Andrew?
Leaders of religious sects?
Nickelodeon's Brian Peck & Dan Schneider?

Are all of those conspiracy theories?
Are all of these below conspiracy theories as well??

https://www.itv.com/news/anglia/2022-10-21/police-officer-who-raped-child-branded-a-disgrace-by-judge

https://www.cps.gov.uk/cps/news/former-police-officer-jailed-life-over-160-child-sexual-offences#:~:text=A%20former%20police%20officer%20for,as%2010%2Dyears%2Dold.

https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2024-01-01/serving-police-officer-charged-with-sexual-assault-on-a-child

https://news.sky.com/story/metropolitan-police-officer-sacked-for-sexual-activity-with-underage-runaway-child-13009655

https://www.thedailybeast.com/report-reveals-chilling-number-of-cops-arrested-for-child-sex-abuse <---- This one is US based.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is it not common knowledge that paedophiles will intentionally try to place themselves in positions of power (to varying degrees) precisely to try and get away with their crimes?
I think we're splitting hairs over what "positions of power" & Conspiracy Theories actually mean at this point.
A "position of power" can be anything from parent, to teacher, to police officer, to TV star, to Hollywood Star, to Rich Entrepreneur.

There was also a study relatively recently that talked about how many people would actually commit these types of offences if secrecy was assured, and these were just the ones that felt comfortable enough to admit in the survey - I believe there was a thread on MN boards about it!
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/millions-of-men-would-sexually-abuse-children-if-secrecy-was-sure-ncf9lx5v7

(Just checked quickly before posting and found it; https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5031628-new-study-millions-of-men-would-xesually-abuse-children-if-secrecy-was-assured-the-times )

What is the opposite of a conspiracy theorist? Presumably in the context of this thread, someone who does not believe that groups of powerful people ever gather together and abuse children. Conspiracy deniers, despite the evidence?

When you see someone choose to take a user name from the main character in a crime novel about a child murder*, especially as there are debates about the character being the murderer all over t'internet, there isn't much that the OP has to say which surprises me.

*In the Woods by Tana French

I think you are accusing me of taking a position for purposes of debate or argument. I’m not. I genuinely wondered whether KJK is
the subject of annoyance in your social circles. No one I know in real life has heard of her- I’m not in any women’s groups or feminist groups. The ones in my area are thoroughly captured so I’ve actively avoided them.

I don’t really see her discussed here in any personal way, just the impact of whatever she has done.

So I wondered why you are so focused on her and how she’s perceived. That’s all. Purely face value.

A coincidence theorist perhaps?

I think you might be overthinking a bit there. I find this poster bewildering but don’t suspect her of anything other than being a dogged and frustrating communicator!

One is about a named vulnerable child that has probably been raped before being killed (according to official sources).
One is about unnamed powerful men raping.

Yep. Totally similar. Don't know why I never saw that before 🙄 Point scoring shit again. Sick.

I think you 'll find that the OP says that their user name was taken from their favourite novel on a thread in FWR some months back. That's why it stuck with me.

I can't be arsed to search back - but feel free.

So no, I'm not over thinking as you call it.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4527141-To-end-a-friendship-due-to-his-use-of-sex-workers?page=12&reply=117352464
There you go.@pickledandpuzzled

Particularly:

AdamRyan · 20/05/2022 09:16
You have dodged the question of your own porn consumption Adam. Why is that?
Because I was talking about the manosphere and prostitutes 🙄

I'll say the same thing to you that I said to Hawkins - read Laura Bates "Men who hate women" about the manosphere.
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AdamRyan · 20/05/2022 09:17
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www.goodreads.com/book/show/2459785.In_the_Woods

I wasn’t doubting the source of the name. More about whether it speaks to dark depths of OP’s soul and motives.

There’s enough unpleasantness without looking for more, imo.

I must have had the same dream so I did try squeezing one but it split open and the darn stuff went all over the countertop. ☹️
Bet they were invented by a man!

Yeah. They're definitely defective. 🙄