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JKR exposing Scottish hate crime laws for what they are

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LargeSquareRock · 01/04/2024 12:14

https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1774747068944265615?s=61&t=NHDSDk1MaF98_GOtcuLi0Q

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Emotionalsupportviper · 01/04/2024 18:10

Boiledbeetle · 01/04/2024 17:07

It's not being in any space that women have a issue with, although some probably do, I know I'm at the point where I don't even want to be alone in a room with a doctor if he's a man. It's being in women only spaces. And I don't want to be in a women only space with a man. Any man no matter what he thinks in his head, or what clothes he's wearing.

A transwoman, and a man, they are the same thing to me: an adult human male

Yours

A victim of rape as a child by a man who was already a convicted murderer.

Will that satisfy you?

https://uk-database.org/2013/07/17/steven-rushworth-ellesmere-port/

https://www.cheshire-live.co.uk/news/local-news/ellesmere-port-man-sentenced-13-5185532

And I may as well add in my doctor as well.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/anthony-bland-gp-with-26-000-child-abuse-images-is-struck-off-xlk35w99v

Is my level of trauma enough for you to accept that I may not wish to share women only spaces with men, no matter how they identify? Not that a woman should have to have suffered any trauma at all for her "NO I DO NOT CONSENT TO A MAN IN A WOMAN'S SPACE" to be enough.

Flowers

You're a legend, boiled. I'm proud to know you. You could so easily have crumpled but you haven't

Cailin66 · 01/04/2024 18:10

AIstolemylunch · 01/04/2024 12:37

I'm actually finding it hilarious on twitter today. Everybody reporting and counter reporting everyone else. It's ludicrous. There's no way the Scottish reporting units will be able to even process them all, never mind investigate or take any action. Shows it to forbthe ludicrous farce it is.

Stay strong women, the world is waking up. Misogyny is the actual hate crime.

I’m quoting loads of tweets, saying men are men, male pronouns, bring it on ….

LakeTiticaca · 01/04/2024 18:11

Artesia · 01/04/2024 16:34

D*o I care if there's a convicted rapist in my space, yes- it's irrelevant what their sec or gender is...
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Clue- their sex will always be male. Rape is legally defined as penetration with a penis.

Ah but some women DO have penises don't they?
Sir Keir Starmer says it so it must be true!!

LoobiJee · 01/04/2024 18:11

Arabella, Vito, Boiled and Motorina.

So sorry to hear what happened to you.

I’d like to hope that the bad faith posters / men’s sexual entitlement activists on this thread feel ashamed of themselves, but sadly I fear the likelihood is very much otherwise.

Helleofabore · 01/04/2024 18:11

We also know that there are posters who cannot recognise abuse when they see it or read about it.

For instance, there was one poster who wrote a post about just how much more egregious the women complaining to the reception at Wi Spa was than the male person with an erect penis was who slid naked into the spa in the female only section within a metre of a nine year old girl. I am sure all on the thread at the time remember that.

Then there was one poster recently who posted to vilify JKRowling and support the male person with a history of abusing JKR. They actually vilified the abused woman in the face of male pattern abuse!

So, why are we surprised when a poster prioritises any male person above female people who have been abused or who just want privacy from male people? I would frankly be surprised if posters with that history did not prioritise male people to be allowed access to abuse female people. It seems like certainly feel they have some kind of moral superiority to female people and therefore can disregard female people's needs.

Lanore · 01/04/2024 18:12

Have never understood how, in a country where less that 1% of rapes result in a conviction, the police have time to arrest women for saying things that might hurt men’s feelings.

It’s almost like the police think physical violence against women is less important than validating egotistical men.

AboutYouTalk · 01/04/2024 18:14

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NeedToChangeName · 01/04/2024 18:15

I hope JKR reads threads like this and is emboldened to continue to speak out

Sadly, I can't speak freely until I retire

ResisterRex · 01/04/2024 18:16

We also know there are posters who refuse to recognise abuse.

HonoraBridge · 01/04/2024 18:17

There is a protest against this legislation outside the Scottish Parliament today. One of the placards sums things up perfectly - “The truth is not hate speech”.

Ohyoudodoyou · 01/04/2024 18:19

NeedToChangeName · 01/04/2024 18:15

I hope JKR reads threads like this and is emboldened to continue to speak out

Sadly, I can't speak freely until I retire

We keep saying we need to a women's march now, national day of opposition to every bloody thing they keep trying to throw at us!
We are so much more powerful than we believe.

SerendipityJane · 01/04/2024 18:20

I am sure that Martin Niemöller would have written

"First they came for the trans ..."

in the alternative reality where Scotland had eliminated poverty. hunger and preventable illnesses.

Nowayhayday · 01/04/2024 18:20

That was an amazing read. She said to retweet if you agree - I'm in a job that uses enhanced disclosure and I would now be scared to, so I guess the law has been effective in shutting people up already - thankful and glad there are others without fear!

ArabellaScott · 01/04/2024 18:21

Nowayhayday · 01/04/2024 18:20

That was an amazing read. She said to retweet if you agree - I'm in a job that uses enhanced disclosure and I would now be scared to, so I guess the law has been effective in shutting people up already - thankful and glad there are others without fear!

Of course.

Many people will be silenced, thinking carefully about what they say, worried about getting a knock at the door.

It's a shit way to live.

nocoolnamesleft · 01/04/2024 18:24

I think I've got a crush. JKR is magnificent. The way she stands up for the rights of women is inspiring.

DrBlackbird · 01/04/2024 18:27

Boiledbeetle · 01/04/2024 17:23

I got the last laugh, the bastard died in prison!

God @Boiledbeetle am sorry that happened to you, glad the bastard died in prison, and also grateful that you are a voice speaking up loud and clear for women and girl’s safety. Thank you Flowers

And waiting for potato to come back and apologise. Even, perhaps, to review their position and retract their statement as they’ve now heard from someone who has been raped and does not want to share single sex spaces with men. What do you say potato?

PS JKR’s tweets trending no 2 on BBC…

Theraininspainfalls · 01/04/2024 18:28

nocoolnamesleft · 01/04/2024 18:24

I think I've got a crush. JKR is magnificent. The way she stands up for the rights of women is inspiring.

Is there anyone else in public life who really stands up for truth and justice as fearlessly as she does?

Emotionalsupportviper · 01/04/2024 18:30

Nowayhayday · 01/04/2024 18:20

That was an amazing read. She said to retweet if you agree - I'm in a job that uses enhanced disclosure and I would now be scared to, so I guess the law has been effective in shutting people up already - thankful and glad there are others without fear!

Pick your battles.

Speak and act when it is safe to do so. Commonsense from the inside, supporting your children and ensuring they know the importance of truth and the reality of biology, not letting the bastards grind you down - they all add up.

If you require an enhanced disclosure maybe you are working with vulnerable people. Staying in place and helping to keep them safe, gently shining a light where possible - not everyone needs to be firing over the battlements, some of us can chip at foundations.

Newtt · 01/04/2024 18:30

MrsOvertonsWindow · 01/04/2024 13:25

The Telegraph reporting this and there's over 4,000 comments, most? all? in support of JKR. Women are no longer alone with this as the danger to children and the insane bullying of women is exposed:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/04/01/jk-rowling-could-investigated-misgendering-snp-law-scotland/

Bravo JKR!!
How on earth has it come to this????

LarkLane · 01/04/2024 18:31

Fucking hell @Boiledbeetle I remember that bastard's case in real time. I was living not so far away.
A big safe hug to you, if that's ok, and all of the women here.

GenderlessVoid · 01/04/2024 18:33

I'm yet to actually meet any woman who refuses to be in a space with ANY men or trans people because they've been raped or had some other kind of bad experience. And I know a lot of people who have been raped or sexually assaulted. - @potato57

The arrogance here is breathtaking. Do you think that everyone you know will tell you whether they've been sexually assaulted? Or if they do, that they'll tell you every problem this has created for them, esp when they might be called a bigot? Many ppl I know don't even tell their spouse or close friends about their CPTSD reactions, partly bc of the stigma but also bc it can be triggering, hard to explain, can effect every area of your life (and you don't want to make everything about your CPTSD), can be unpredictable, etc.

Why should they have to tell you? The idea that women have to justify their concerns or explain themselves to you is incredibly arrogant.

Waitwhat23 · 01/04/2024 18:38

Theraininspainfalls · 01/04/2024 18:28

Is there anyone else in public life who really stands up for truth and justice as fearlessly as she does?

We're actually (thankfully) quite lucky in Scotland to have quite a few people who are standing up fearlessly for women's rights -

Joanna Cherry
Neale Hanvey
Ash Regan
The women of FWS
Scottish Lesbians
Elaine Miller
Rhona Hotchkiss
Joan McAlpine
Johann Lamont
The two Labour MSP's who stood alone against the GRR whip - Carol Mochan and Claire Baker

I'm definite I've missed some.

But what's so amazing about JKR is that she's doing this for those of us who can't. If Police Scotland refuse to go for her, they can't go for the rest of us..

LarkLane · 01/04/2024 18:41

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ErrolTheDragon · 01/04/2024 18:42

You're a legend, boiled. I'm proud to know you. You could so easily have crumpled but you haven't

Yeah. I wonder if @potato57 will have the grace to apologise?

Boiledbeetle · 01/04/2024 18:42

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