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KJK’s insane rant

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Dontblameitonsunshine · 26/03/2024 09:38

Kjk’s decision to attack everyone who is not her lapdog is increasingly destructive. It looks like Can-sg put on a great conference. Those doctors who have spoken up have risked their careers. Kjk has become famous and has started a business from LWS. She has benefited way more than any of these doctors.

Her work could be powerful if she just stopped attacking everyone else. But these days she is a demagogue and causes more harm than good by capitalising on vulnerable and timid women and telling them that they need her to speak for them.

Part 2 - #FirstDoNoHarm although maybe #FirstDoSomeHarm - what will it take for medics to catch up?

This is the original #AdultHumanFemale channel and home of Kellie-Jay Keen aka Posie Parker.If you would like to donate to help support us, click here ⇨ http...

https://youtu.be/H509BAh59ak?si=tyTVneh2Jiz0rY6T

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TathingScinsel · 03/04/2024 00:13

I doubt Talk TV/Spectator/Times Radio pay much per ten minute appearance, but several million YouTube views might help put a dent in it?

OneMorePlant · 03/04/2024 00:15

Not if youtube demonetises you for saying naughty things

TathingScinsel · 03/04/2024 00:19

Good point!

Back to the t shirts then?

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 03/04/2024 00:30

I hope everyone reading plans to check where they bought all their other t-shirts, and that they will then audit the personal spending of those company shareholders.

theothercatpurred · 03/04/2024 00:32

Interesting that none of you are mentioning the donations.

I mean, you could argue that the t-shirts are a business.

Harder to justify that with donations though, isn't it.

Datun · 03/04/2024 00:34

Bloody hell. Not only must women be policed about what they buy, they must be held to account for what they support!

Datun · 03/04/2024 00:35

Interesting that none of you are mentioning the donations.

Not really.

You're the only one who finds that interesting

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 03/04/2024 00:35

Donations are donations, because donors want to financially support what she does. This is the usual purpose of donations.

Would you like to see my bank statement so that you can query any of my other direct debits?

BezMills · 03/04/2024 00:42

I don't know about her mortgage but I can see she's living rent free in a few places

OneMorePlant · 03/04/2024 00:45

theothercatpurred · 03/04/2024 00:32

Interesting that none of you are mentioning the donations.

I mean, you could argue that the t-shirts are a business.

Harder to justify that with donations though, isn't it.

No one cares about the donations. She's not standing behind every woman with a gun to their head to donate to her. They are gifts.

What's next on your ridiculous rant? The drawings and home made gifts people send her? You think she's selling all those home baked cookies from a van after hours and pulling apart the yarn to make new "dodgy" merch?

OldCrone · 03/04/2024 01:10

theothercatpurred · 03/04/2024 00:32

Interesting that none of you are mentioning the donations.

I mean, you could argue that the t-shirts are a business.

Harder to justify that with donations though, isn't it.

Here's what she says about donations.

At Let Women Speak we are very lucky to have an extraordinary team of stewards who give up their free time to enable women to speak. They are all volunteers, but we need to ensure they're not out of pocket. Each UK event needs a £2000 stewards and security fund to make it possible. Below we have "pay what you like" tickets, so if you would like to make a donation towards the stewards and security fund we would be extremely grateful. If you cannot contribute, please get a free ticket as it can give us a rough idea about the potential numbers to expect.

https://www.letwomenspeak.org/events

You were concerned about the safety of women attending her events earlier, now you're complaining that she asks for donations to pay for security.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 03/04/2024 01:10

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NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 03/04/2024 01:16

Note to trans activist readers who may be inclined to take me seriously, and who tend to be absolutely terrible at reading the most simply written legislation.

although it is legal to carry a knife with a blade under three inches in a public place, it remains illegal to use a knife of any length to threaten or harm another person. There is no loophole that permits you to use a short penknife to intimidate others, or to injure them.

Do not threaten people with knives. It is illegal.

Cassyie · 03/04/2024 02:52

TathingScinsel · 03/04/2024 00:13

I doubt Talk TV/Spectator/Times Radio pay much per ten minute appearance, but several million YouTube views might help put a dent in it?

The going rate is £300-£500 per appearance - often more for in studio spots.

LilyBartsHatShop · 03/04/2024 02:56

@IwantToRetire
"Surely even given the provocative nature of the OP a more logical and adult thread would have been about where to now?
ie those in the profession might want to talk about what more tentative steps can be taken."
Worth a shot I suppose.
I stopped work as a mental health nurse in 2016 in part because of the way my union and all my professional bodies had been captured over childhood transition. It felt like my profession had become a death cult. I had no idea what to do. I went and lived in a shack in the forest for a while.
I think CAN-SG have found a brilliant strategy: hold conferences open to all, and list as your number one priority the development of a clinically rigorous definition of gender identity.
I'm surprised posters here are worried that process could reify gender identity. Nothing more quickly exposes the man beind the curtain than asking for a rigorous definition of gender identity.
That's what had those grown men flinging their rage filled bodies against the glass.

DameMaud · 03/04/2024 03:44

AdamRyan · 02/04/2024 23:03

March 2024 any better for you?
https://hopenothate.org.uk/case-files-kellie-jay/

Insomniac de-lurking as this kind of thing (hyperbolic misleading) is so deeply disturbing to me and I had to comment (and go find links)

From the linked hopenothate page:

Keen-Minshull held a demonstration in Newcastle in January where a speaker named Lisa Morgan referenced Adolf Hitler’s term “the big lie”, drawing a parallel to those supporting trans rights today. Hitler used the term in Mein Kampf to agitate against European Jews.

Video of the speech, with transcript, analysis, and background of the speaker (Lisa Morgan)
https://genderwang.substack.com/p/what-lisa-morgan-really-said-at-newcastle

Lisa's webpage:
https://www.futureseeing.com/index.php/about-me

She is a middle aged hypnotherapist, who has written few pieces for Woman and Home and She magazine, and spoken occasionally on regional news programmes about her work. And who chose to speak at a small public event for ordinary women like her to air their views that are shared by thousand of other ordinary women.

Hopenothate's reference to and description of her speech make her sound like a dangerous neo-nazi.

What the hell has happened to our world?

What Lisa Morgan really said at Newcastle #LetwomenSpeak

Debunking lies that Lisa "praised Hitler" or "read from Mein Kampf"

https://genderwang.substack.com/p/what-lisa-morgan-really-said-at-newcastle

Helleofabore · 03/04/2024 06:44

Why do posters keep posting smear articles without checking just what the article are supposedly reporting vs the facts?

Let Women Speak - Newcastle - Part 2 time 8.59

https://www.youtube.com/live/vgxjSGeCE4Q

And this is the transcript of her speech.

Now, I am going to talk to you about something I have not seen in the press. I am a hypnosis practitioner and have been doing hypnosis for 30 years and helping people to hypnotise others. And I know about language. I know that this is based on something we call the ‘big lie’.

Do you know the ‘big lie’?

The big lie was first described by Adolf Hitler in Mein Kampf. The big lie is such a big lie that ordinary people like us think, ‘Well, that can’t be a lie. Because I have never tell as big a lie as that.’ We only lie in small ways. The big lie… There is one big lie going on and it is being done by men, in the early part of the 20th century.

It began when they had an erotic fantasy. And they decided they were going to sell us the ‘big lie’. And what is the big lie? The big lie is that that ‘transwomen are women’.

But they are not, are they? They are men, and we know that.
So let me just spend a couple of minutes telling you a bit how this hypnosis works.

Repetition. Repetition is hypnotic. The more you repeat it, the more you believe it. The more you hear ‘transwomen are women’, the more a shadow of that big lie, lies in your head.

I am sure that I am not alone in that I am sat at home and thinking, maybe there is, you know, maybe they do have female thought patterns. No! The effing don’t! All the thought patterns I have, are my thought patterns and I have as much DNA that is female in my toenail that Izzard doesn’t have in any part of him.

So the thing is, you start to believe it. You start to believe it. And if you repeat an idea over and over again, and people start to believe it, and you want them to believe it, that is called affirmation. Affirmation is what hypnotists use to make you believe something. So, ‘be kind’ is an affirmation.

If you are sympathetic to this ideology, this ideology that I call the ‘trans phallus - ey’. If you are sympathetic, then you are affirming. Everytime you call a he who says he is a she, she, you are affirming.

Affirmation makes people believe things. If you repeat it and you repeat it. I hope that I am repeating this enough that you will be in no doubt, no doubt ever, that a man is a man and a woman is a woman.

So how to stop this, what is called ‘gaslighting’, what is called brain washing.
Manage your emotions. Don’t match them. Don’t get sympathetic. Don’t go ‘there there dear’.

Break the chant. Pour cold water over their lies. Do it realistically or do it with your words. Your honest words break people out of compliance. If you are honest, they cannot stay where they are, cos it is all about stake management. We have to manage our emotions.

Refuse to affirm.

And the best thing is laugh. I know that I am not laughing now, but I do laugh a lot.

And I want to just give you one last tip on hypnosis. Don’t ever say to someone, ‘transwomen are not women’. Because our unconscious mind does not think ‘not’. It only thinks it is transwomen, women, transwomen, women. Transwomen, well they are women, aren’t they? They are women! Emotions. Emotions are what caught them. They got caught, not by rational things, but they got caught by emotions. And how are we going to break this is by using emotions that shake them out. So, they can’t find that emotional sympathy ever again.

Thank you.

_

Discussing a concept such as how a lie that is so inconceivable that normal people cannot believe it is a lie is what she did. And she did it to highlight how society has been influenced to repeat a mantra that males can ever be considered 'women'.

Should this propaganda tool never be discussed because to do so 'invokes' Hitler some how? Will people stop discussing Foucault then? What about mentioning anything that John Money did or said?

I am all for people critiquing what Lisa Morgan said, but let's get to the facts.

Before you continue to YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/live/vgxjSGeCE4Q

BezMills · 03/04/2024 07:16

Thanks to the pp who, in their ignorance, gave us a chance to read the actual factual words rather than bullshit, lies and smears. That is better, isn't it? Agree or disagree, here are the real words as spoken on the day.

Thanks @Helleofabore you're some woman right enough. A fact pharmacist dispensing prescriptions of truth.

Beefcurtains79 · 03/04/2024 07:24

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Helleofabore · 03/04/2024 07:27

AdamRyan · 02/04/2024 23:03

March 2024 any better for you?
https://hopenothate.org.uk/case-files-kellie-jay/

Far-right activists have also supported her at her rallies. In September 2022, an event hosted by KeenMinshull in Brighton was streamed by Hearts of Oak. Members of the Independent Nationalist Network and Alpha Team Assemble also attended

Again, so what that the event was streamed and attended by others. By that same logic, any random attending a conference and streamer a speaker they might agree with or disagree with has just aligned the speaker with that random’s political aims.

By the way, I really do recommend that you actually do that fucking research into what you post. You might find that Hearts Of Oak platform people (and they nod along with those speakers) who think the Tories are shit! Gosh. Does that make YOU a supporter of the Hearts of Oak?

We have asked and no one yet, outside empty assertions, has shown that Hearts of Oak were allowed, or even known, to be there. It was two people apparently. And are they anything but anti-Marxist free speechers as their about page says? Is anti-Marx now automatically far right? That seems surprising.

If freedom of speech is now the domain of the far right, that really does say something about the growing totalitarianism and authoritarianism of the left.

Considering other free speechers have live streamed the events, I doubt that this is considered a credible accusation to a rational thinker. Considering the transgender rights protests live streamed by the auditor
crowd who are often also labelled ‘far right’ by some who seek to discredit them, the exact same argument can also be made at extreme transgender rights activists.

And any event that can be filmed in the world becomes aligned with someone they don’t agree with. It is a fallacious argument.

Signalbox · 03/04/2024 07:40

She's bragged about being mortgage free, did you miss that?

I’m shocked to the core! 😮

Beefcurtains79 · 03/04/2024 07:43

Signalbox · 03/04/2024 07:40

She's bragged about being mortgage free, did you miss that?

I’m shocked to the core! 😮

Women shouldn’t even be allowed a mortgage! Certainly not to be outright home owners. Burn them.

AdamRyan · 03/04/2024 08:08

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Hope not Hate are not "TRA extremists" Confused

AdamRyan · 03/04/2024 08:16

Helleofabore · 03/04/2024 06:44

Why do posters keep posting smear articles without checking just what the article are supposedly reporting vs the facts?

Let Women Speak - Newcastle - Part 2 time 8.59

https://www.youtube.com/live/vgxjSGeCE4Q

And this is the transcript of her speech.

Now, I am going to talk to you about something I have not seen in the press. I am a hypnosis practitioner and have been doing hypnosis for 30 years and helping people to hypnotise others. And I know about language. I know that this is based on something we call the ‘big lie’.

Do you know the ‘big lie’?

The big lie was first described by Adolf Hitler in Mein Kampf. The big lie is such a big lie that ordinary people like us think, ‘Well, that can’t be a lie. Because I have never tell as big a lie as that.’ We only lie in small ways. The big lie… There is one big lie going on and it is being done by men, in the early part of the 20th century.

It began when they had an erotic fantasy. And they decided they were going to sell us the ‘big lie’. And what is the big lie? The big lie is that that ‘transwomen are women’.

But they are not, are they? They are men, and we know that.
So let me just spend a couple of minutes telling you a bit how this hypnosis works.

Repetition. Repetition is hypnotic. The more you repeat it, the more you believe it. The more you hear ‘transwomen are women’, the more a shadow of that big lie, lies in your head.

I am sure that I am not alone in that I am sat at home and thinking, maybe there is, you know, maybe they do have female thought patterns. No! The effing don’t! All the thought patterns I have, are my thought patterns and I have as much DNA that is female in my toenail that Izzard doesn’t have in any part of him.

So the thing is, you start to believe it. You start to believe it. And if you repeat an idea over and over again, and people start to believe it, and you want them to believe it, that is called affirmation. Affirmation is what hypnotists use to make you believe something. So, ‘be kind’ is an affirmation.

If you are sympathetic to this ideology, this ideology that I call the ‘trans phallus - ey’. If you are sympathetic, then you are affirming. Everytime you call a he who says he is a she, she, you are affirming.

Affirmation makes people believe things. If you repeat it and you repeat it. I hope that I am repeating this enough that you will be in no doubt, no doubt ever, that a man is a man and a woman is a woman.

So how to stop this, what is called ‘gaslighting’, what is called brain washing.
Manage your emotions. Don’t match them. Don’t get sympathetic. Don’t go ‘there there dear’.

Break the chant. Pour cold water over their lies. Do it realistically or do it with your words. Your honest words break people out of compliance. If you are honest, they cannot stay where they are, cos it is all about stake management. We have to manage our emotions.

Refuse to affirm.

And the best thing is laugh. I know that I am not laughing now, but I do laugh a lot.

And I want to just give you one last tip on hypnosis. Don’t ever say to someone, ‘transwomen are not women’. Because our unconscious mind does not think ‘not’. It only thinks it is transwomen, women, transwomen, women. Transwomen, well they are women, aren’t they? They are women! Emotions. Emotions are what caught them. They got caught, not by rational things, but they got caught by emotions. And how are we going to break this is by using emotions that shake them out. So, they can’t find that emotional sympathy ever again.

Thank you.

_

Discussing a concept such as how a lie that is so inconceivable that normal people cannot believe it is a lie is what she did. And she did it to highlight how society has been influenced to repeat a mantra that males can ever be considered 'women'.

Should this propaganda tool never be discussed because to do so 'invokes' Hitler some how? Will people stop discussing Foucault then? What about mentioning anything that John Money did or said?

I am all for people critiquing what Lisa Morgan said, but let's get to the facts.

"The big lie" was a specific bit that Hitler wrote about the Jews in mein kampf.

The original description of the big lie appeared in Mein Kampf. Adolf Hitler applied it to the behavior of Jews rather than as a tactic he advocated.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/joseph-goebbels-on-the-quot-big-lie-quot?utm_content=cmp-true

Not a clever thing to reference, many people would find that antisemitic. I'm not surprised Hope not Hate referenced it, given the increase in antisemitism at the moment.

Joseph Goebbels On the “Big Lie”

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/joseph-goebbels-on-the-quot-big-lie-quot

AdamRyan · 03/04/2024 08:17

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I think you'll find they can. But people with a different opinion to you are not trolls. Neither are people posting evidence or discussing points.

If you want a block button, better stick to TwiX

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