KJK’s insane rant

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Kjk’s decision to attack everyone who is not her lapdog is increasingly destructive. It looks like Can-sg put on a great conference. Those doctors who have spoken up have risked their careers. Kjk has become famous and has started a business from LWS. She has benefited way more than any of these doctors.

Her work could be powerful if she just stopped attacking everyone else. But these days she is a demagogue and causes more harm than good by capitalising on vulnerable and timid women and telling them that they need her to speak for them.

And that's not monstering her at all

That isn't monstering her for goodness sake 🙄
It's just a fact. People do say the same things about them.
Why can't people point that out?

Edited as accidentally missed out the word say

Attempting to align her with Trump AND Tommy Robinson? That's how she easily wins, because of idiots who are so frightened of how she speaks the plain truth they make complete fools of themselves. She is stating what poll after poll show the majority of the UK & USA public think.

https://www.newsweek.com/americans-oppose-puberty-blockers-transgender-minors-1806621

Trump?!

Seriously? That's the best you can do? You can't possibly think that's clever. Come on now.

They really don't send their best, do they?

Who's "they?"
Why the insinuation I've "been sent?"
What?! 😂
By who?
Why?
Have you heard yourself lol?
People can have different views on this board it doesn't mean they've been "sent" by "them" 🙄
Yes, Trump. The same thing has been said about him.
Not sure why that's so unbelievable and /or controversial to say.

It's childish and/or silly.

In reality on one level this whole thread based on OP's rant is really a back handed compliment to KJK.

Lets face it all sort sorts of women, some even claiming to be feminist, some even being public figures say things we disagree with or feel they have unfairly criticised something we think is good.

But it turns out none of them are important enough or influencial enought to warrent a thread on FWR calling out their rule breaking.

So I can only assume that deep in the heart of OP they consider KJK to be the most important women's rights activist in the UK.

And her wrong think may in fect any number of women who cant think for themselves.

So seems that despite cross words and lapdogism, we are all on the same side!

KJK rules - along with JKR of course!

Agreed @IwantToRetire. She can't be ignored and she and her supporters (i.e. women) won't go away.

This is how reasonable criticism of KJK should be made, if OP is sincere and acting in good faith.

That's a desperately dishonest tactic right there. Do better.

Well, I would say that some posters have a thing about abusive men and leveraging them into posts to demonise women that those posters disagree with. Which is a form of abuse itself, towards those women.

I also don’t believe that a person who calls the behaviour of a woman appearing a the reception of a spa in her robe to report a sex offence more egregious than the male sex abuser who had just slid into a spa with a semi erect penis with a 9 year old girl can be a good judge of what is monstering or not.

Nor what abuse looks like either come to that.

I think they are. It's kind of sad, but yanno

Just to add that the spa was in a female only section of the spa where female people expected to only be naked with other female people.

But apparently, appearing in a robe was more egregious than the male with a semi erect penis getting into a spa close to a nine year old girl and other women who expected that male person to not be there at all.

When you have seen some posters prioritise abusers more than once to demonise women who are in turn highlighting abuse acts being done to them or other women and girls, you begin to see a pattern for not recognising abusive behaviour.

I was looking for a great post that @Ivee made a few pages back, only to find it had been deleted. I wanted to say that this put into words what I and probably what a lot of other posters were thinking. I really can’t remember anything about it that could justify its deletion.

Strange world.

Anyway, it is a bit unhealthy, in my opinion, to watch the channel of someone you dislike. KJKs video is a two-parter and OP posted part 2 - that’s a lot of footage to get through if you really dislike them.

I broadly agree with everything KJK says and does, sometimes I feel a bit of tension there because I might take a different approach, but overall I agree with her. Even though I agree with her and think she is engaging to watch most of the time, I hadn’t watched one of her videos for ages.

Maybe OP is encouraging people who have forgotten, to watch her videos again?

But then again all the talk of lapdogs and everything suggests to me it wasn’t a public service, but driven by something unhealthy. Self-defeating. Maybe it’s just an attention-seeking thing, so the outcome doesn’t matter, just the attention.

Nice try 🙄

What exactly is your point?

I watched the conference on line and am part of CAN-SG. I was really disappointed KJK chose this medical conference to target. She's never criticised a medical conference before and chose to get angry about the first medical conference opposing gender ideology in the UK. I don't know how much of it she watched or if she just saw 1 slide but the conference she describes bears no relationship to the conference I watched. Several speakers described how statistics have been manipulated and invented to push children towards puberty blockers, the brain not maturing until 25 was mentioned several times, the unrealistic expectations of a gender change fixing your psychiatric problems rather than focussing on treating those first was discussed, a detransitioner who had transitioned as an adult spoke about adults with psychiatric problems needing caution with gender changing as well.
No the conference wasn't " no one should ever have medical help to change gender" but the medical institutions have been captured by TRAs and getting some reality in to the system has to start by saying that anything doctors do has to have an evidence base the same as the rest of medicine. With children the evidence is increasingly showing changing gender is damaging physically and mentally.
KJK is targeting the wrong people here.

One of the keynote speakers is still a TRA. Recommending this book on her website:

Alex Drummond: Grrl Alex: A Personal Journey to a Transgender Identity
The abstract in amazon.co.uk says: ‘Gender-queering’ challenges the assumption that to cross genders requires ‘passing’ – convincing others that you really are the ‘opposite’ gender.
An interesting, intelligent book, and a pleasure to read, I really recommend.

Alex Drummond who visits schools and tells girls he is a lesbian.

Awful though he is, perhaps the positive aspect of his stance, in a way that corresponds to the idea of ‘not doing [physical] harm’ is that no physical body actually needs to change.

Of course it is nonsense, as all it means is that there are males and females who all say or think all sorts of things about themselves.

FFS, that doesn’t mean she’s a TRA! She’s a psychiatrist - is it at all possible for you to consider that she is interested in how AD’s porn addled mind works?

activism and medicine are two different beasts.

Ultra doesn’t apply here, nor does “hold the line”. Evidence and debate do - and there is published evidence that transition works. Can sg can’t ignore that, they have to discuss it and disprove it. Which is what they did for a day.

i don’t see the point of undermining them, if KJK thinks their approach is wrong she should go to the conference and discuss it like a professional. There is no place for tantrums

I get why she's frustrated. I could have a rant as angry about this conference while appreciating it. I could also have a rant about as angry about things Kjk's said and done while appreciating LWS🤷‍♀️

i don’t see the point of undermining them, if KJK thinks their approach is wrong she should go to the conference and discuss it like a professional. There is no place for tantrums

Would KJK be allowed to speak at conference like this? Isnt that the problem, she isnt included in any of the growing number of conferences.

And it is something they said about Barrack Obama. It is the same thing they said about Nelson Mandela.

Yet… you brought up Trump only. Just like the OP just had to post an interview with Carl Benjamin.

Maybe we can consider you to be similar to an abusive OP. That seems to be the level of intelligence you have used with this comparison above. Well done you.

I’ve genuinely no idea who Carl Benjamin is. What did all the references to cheese mean? Every word seems to carry a million connotations on this insane (another disallowed word) board