Talking about men with autogynephilia - AGPs

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Have just been checking the mumsnet guidelines and this is what they say on the subject:

Will you consider deleting posts that associate transgender people with autogynephila (AGP)?

This is something we'd look at on a case by case basis, though we'll definitely delete posts which generalise.

So, we should bear that in mind here.

I wondered how anyone can say for certain that a man who identifies as a woman is NOT an AGP.

I suppose if he is seeing a psychologist or similar HCP then that HCP may be able to give an opinion. But the fact of the matter is, none of the rest of the people that such a man came into contact with would know for sure if he is getting kicks out of dressing as a woman.

The Equality Act, through having Gender Reassignment as a protected characteristic has given protection to men with autogynephilia, hasn't it?

I know this is not a particularly new trail of thought for this board but I felt perhaps it needed a bit of an airing.

Yup. Coercing a woman into a sex act without her consent. Grim.

That was when I started going off the Guardian, that they let that pass without pointing out how predatory it was.

‘If you'd said to your average British adult in, say 2005, "Did you know some men get off on wearing women's clothes?" they'd have wondered primarily why you were asking them something that was blindingly obvious.’

Yes, and much, much earlier; at the court of Louis XIV , for example. That’s why, against the current narrative, many ( I would say most in my childhood and YP experience) women disliked drag performances, yes, even in ‘panto’.

Woman in men’s clothing, though, was often titillating , mainly to a male audience- as long as the women were young and physically attractive.

My DP anecdotally, a software engineer, has told me that he has met more MTF software engineers in the course of his career than he has female ones.

I’d put money on this statistic being replicated elsewhere.

How depressing.

Reminds of the one where there were more people called ‘Steve’ as FTSE 100 CEOs than people who were female. This was in 2018. I think there are now still more Andrews and Simons than there are women.