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ArabellaScott · 18/03/2024 16:11

In what world do you read 'Christian' and reach automatically for 'right wing'?

Thanks for the share, OP.

MinnieCauldwell · 18/03/2024 16:11

PurpleSparkledPixie · 18/03/2024 15:18

So that's who uses the Nazi crab forks!! (Second post onwards)
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5030664-selling-nazi-artefacts?reply=133854612

FFS I was just on that thread; is there no escaping the Nazi Crab Forks

ArabellaScott · 18/03/2024 16:12

https://archive.is/vR7zF

ArabellaScott · 18/03/2024 16:12

MinnieCauldwell · 18/03/2024 16:11

FFS I was just on that thread; is there no escaping the Nazi Crab Forks

No, its a pincer movement.

MinnieCauldwell · 18/03/2024 16:15

ArabellaScott · 18/03/2024 16:12

No, its a pincer movement.

Its left me a shell of my former self

SidewaysOtter · 18/03/2024 16:23

MinnieCauldwell · 18/03/2024 16:15

Its left me a shell of my former self

I sympathise, I think we're all just clawing our way through.

ArabellaScott · 18/03/2024 16:24

When you come to a fork in the road, sometimes it's best to just scuttle sideways.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/03/2024 18:03

You might as well just be a hermit.

anunlikelyseahorse · 18/03/2024 18:24

I've noticed Mishy gets a bit crabby about these things.

DadJoke · 18/03/2024 18:31

NCHIs should be abolished. It's a crime or it's not.

TWETMIRF · 18/03/2024 18:31

I'm feeling pretty salty myself about it all

anunlikelyseahorse · 18/03/2024 18:51

TWETMIRF · 18/03/2024 18:31

I'm feeling pretty salty myself about it all

I guess that's what happens with surf and TERF!

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 18/03/2024 19:04

DadJoke · 18/03/2024 18:31

NCHIs should be abolished. It's a crime or it's not.

Finally, I agree with you on something.

ArabellaScott · 18/03/2024 19:58

Yes, NCHIs should be scrapped.

SidewaysOtter · 18/03/2024 20:18

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 18/03/2024 19:04

Finally, I agree with you on something.

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day Grin

DadJoke · 18/03/2024 20:41

SidewaysOtter · 18/03/2024 20:18

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day Grin

I'll take it!

Codlingmoths · 18/03/2024 23:33

MishyJDI · 18/03/2024 11:48

funded by the Christian legal centre....Yep. There is the right wing funds again.

The Christian legal volunteer orgs I know support asylum seekers with their claims. So right wing of those bloody Christians.

BlackeyedSusan · 19/03/2024 00:40

SapphireSeptember · 18/03/2024 12:06

You can be left wing and Christian, the two are not mutually exclusive. I've managed it for years and haven't burst into flames on entering a church yet... 😁

This is one of those articles that just makes you wonder what some people are thinking. Also the lying got to me, as the council claimed they hadn't reported her to the police, and the police said they did! Daft of the council to tell such a big fib.

Only because most churches are so fucking cold that hell would freeze over...

BlackeyedSusan · 19/03/2024 00:46

WickedSerious · 18/03/2024 15:00

Yes,it'll give them time to hide in a cupboard before she arrives.

For God's sake I hope they don't mistake a cupboard and a fridge...might accidentally find your self hiding with a right wing politician who claims to be Catholic...

SapphireSeptember · 19/03/2024 00:47

BlackeyedSusan · 19/03/2024 00:40

Only because most churches are so fucking cold that hell would freeze over...

🤣 Luckily for me the church I go to is modern and has central heating, 😁 and sometimes it's too hot! 🥵 I'm with you that a lot of old churches are really cold through. Brrrr. 🥶

DadJoke · 19/03/2024 02:43

No idea if she is right wing, but the Christian Legal Centre is a right-wing evangelical organisation which has taken cases which oppose gay rights, reproductive rights, blasphemy, support proselytising at work, Islamophobic bullying and gender critical beliefs

They are a really unpleasant bunch
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Legal_Centre#:~:text=Observers%20believe%20the%20centre%20has,the%20Christian%20Concern%20campaigning%20organisation.

Christian Legal Centre - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Legal_Centre#:~:text=Observers%20believe%20the%20centre%20has,the%20Christian%20Concern%20campaigning%20organisation.

EasternStandard · 19/03/2024 06:57

What a bizarre situation

She said something which was not illegal in any way, crossed no hate crime or non hate crime boundary and had police involvement

We’re at the level of madness that other periods of history get written about

You have two posters chiming in with how her legal case is funded as if that’s the story

I hope she does well and receives decent damages

EasternStandard · 19/03/2024 07:12

This is what she spends her time doing creatively

‘As an artist I seek to interpret my experiences through creative play, touch and investigation, drawing from the natural world and resources I find around me. I also teach others to do the same.’

This is what she said

‘Culf claimed she politely revealed that, because of her beliefs and her experience with children and young people, she believed transitioning them was harmful.

She added to the employee that the NHS Gender Identity Development Service at the Tavistock Centre, which has been criticised for its treatment of children with gender dysphoria, should be shut down. It <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.is/o/1SSW4/www.thetimes.co.uk/article/staff-promoted-puberty-blockers-gids-large-payouts-rjmcnpkqf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">is closing at the end of this month.’

These comments do not cross any boundaries. Can you imagine police action for everyone saying this?

She’s an artist and mother, her emotional distress must have been huge. I hope it’s seen in £ received

Snowypeaks · 19/03/2024 07:28

If the positions were reversed and it was VC who had set up the Council employee and discriminated unfairly against her or him, the politics of the body funding her might be relevant.
So like I said, unless MishyDJ or DadJoke want to put their hands in their pockets for her legal fees, they should give it a rest. Poor effort, anyway.
Reaching ✅
Guilt by association ✅

Helleofabore · 19/03/2024 07:50

I now think ‘right wing’ is simply shorthand for ‘free speech advocates’.

And if people are so against people being able to say things that others find abhorrent, what does that say about those people?

It is remarkable how those declaring people shouldn’t be able to say things that others don’t want to hear, are often those who label others as hateful and a slew of other judgemental labels with alacrity. It is clearly hypocritical, but they never see it. They accuse others, yet are so often totaliterian and authoritarian themselves.

And it is also remarkable how this then plays out when religion is added. Because some people, and some posters particularly, who consider themselves as wonderfully tolerant, cannot tolerate religious belief. Because they consider it to be abhorrent, yet expect society to comply with their own philosophical belief. It is a fascinating cycle to observe.

Just like a legal centre set up by a Christian group to process cases that their church members want representation on, is then judged to wholly support the things people come to them to get representation on. Using this fucked up rhetoric, does this mean that every legal service then becomes a supporter of murder, rape etc? Or…. Perhaps a legal service provides legal services to people they do and do not agree with but who pay them to represent them.

That description on Wikipedia came from a Pink News article, with many typos to show the level of professionalism that media agency aspires to. And was posted by a poster who shows constantly just how little they value critical thinking and evaluation of content, who obviously think that pink news is a balanced font of information.

I don’t agree with some of the people they have represented, do I think that they should be rejected from getting legal representation? No. I also can see that at least one or two of those people won their cases because they had been subject to illegal actions and no matter whether you agree with their opinions or not, they don’t deserve to be subject to discriminatory behaviour in their job roles. One man simply was poorly treated for pointing out where they thought someone’s free speech was impeded.

As usual though, some people can only see that it is a ‘Christian’ group who supports ‘free speech’ and freedom of belief. They never see the intolerance in their zealous pursuit of totalitarian ideal- where everyone roughly complies with what is considered righteous. Same old same old.