Banned from her own show

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This one is simultaneously jaw dropping and tiresomely familiar

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/artist-restricted-show-gender-view-watford-borough-council-xwxkvw7cs

Sorry, forgot to get a link but it has been archived or perhaps someone might happen along with a share token?

I am actually amazed at how far we are

Whats a comparable time in history? McCarthy? Something bigger

An artist and mother investigated and acted upon because she stated children are harmed

Perhaps this (apparent) quote is pertinent here too?

I love MN. Nazi crab forks have made my day.

If you like the crab forks, wait til you see the collectible spoons.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Collectible-Spoons-Reich-James-Yannes/dp/1425186955

“Observers believe…and raised questions about its funding”

Not quite the same thing as a hard fact, is it now DadJoke? I can “believe” or “raise questions” about whether the moon is made of cheese but that doesn’t make it so.

And so what if they campaign for things I, and many people, don’t agree with? They’re entitled to. I don’t agree with them on many subjects but I fully support their right to have their opinion and campaign for it. It’s called free speech and democracy. If they’re the ones ponying up the cash to support cases like this, my biggest question is, why are they the only ones doing so? Where are all the other organisations who protect freedom of speech?

Funny that the left wing seems to be against free speech and democracy when it’s suits them, demonising anyone with “wrong views”. Not very inclusive or progressive, is it?

I think she has a case. I was reacting to the comments about Christianity. It’s a very weird topic of conversation. I wonder how it came up?

@Helleofabore please read the cases they have supported and look at other sources for the cases they have supported. The article is very well referenced. They almost always lose but make the headlines they are looking for.

You don’t need to defend them to defend their client in this instance. I think she will win.

I've been interested in crab forks since I was a nipper.

They're presumably real Christians, not evangelical Christofascists who've appropriated the word "Christian" the same way the gender soul crowd has appropriated "woman". I do understand turning to this type of funding in the US because polarization is so bad nobody on the moderate to left side will step in at this point. In this case, though, surely there would have been other options.

An artist isn’t going to be connected and clued up on all this stuff

She’s likely stressed and emotionally finding it difficult

How many organisations reached out and offered to pay? I would suggest very few or just one

Whatever all this madness is squarely at the system we have in place, and the insanity of gender

From her website she appears to have done installations and artworks in churches, so may have connected through that.

I did read the pink news article. I read Wikipedia too. I also read their own web site.

They have some views that I disagree with. But their legal team is there to provide service to members of their faith. Even if the case fails, should the legal team not take it? What is your point exactly?

Did you bother to read what I posted? What is ‘right wing’ about them exactly in your view? Vs just supporting Christian views? Or are the two synonymous in your mind? Or is it because others refer to them as ‘right wing’ you just mindlessly repeat it.

Don't get me started on the right wing collections to send right wing famine relief to Gaza.

Good. They probably heard about it and offered

I prefer her case is heard.

I was reacting to the comments about Christianity. It’s a very weird topic of conversation. I wonder how it came up?

It came up in Mishy's first comment on this thread. The following posts about Christianity were taking the piss out of commenting on the bizarre notion that every church/Christian is automatically a bad thing/person. I don't get the left-wing sneering about religion in general, tbh.

Or is it because others refer to them as ‘right wing’ you just mindlessly repeat it.

"Right wing" seems to be some kind of lazy dog-whistling shorthand for "A view I don't like. It doesn't fit with my ideology so it must be evil".

Why argue with a sea-lion? Don't even throw them a fish.

It seems so. I know there are plenty of people out there who disagree with me on many things, I still think they deserve legal representation. As good as they can afford. This sneering 'right wing' tone that comes from posters begs being questioned and clarified. I have seen before on other threads that there is nothing behind some of the labelling beyond 'they are Christian' and that some dick providing content (maybe even for free) has declared the group is 'right wing' because they are so indoctrinated to see anyone expressing concern about something that person holds as unquestionable and then some other person notes that into wikipedia and it gets taken as proverbial gospel. Look at the mess John Pesutto caused himself having staff taking wikipedia and the links on wikipedia as being unbiased statement of fact.

When will it stop? Not when Labour get in. It will be on steroids

I think JKR agrees with you. That's why in the Harry Potter books she wrote that Platform 9 & 3/4 was at King's Crustacean.

Groan! Make it stop!*

*Keep them coming...

Helleofabore · Today 12:00

This sneering 'right wing' tone that comes from posters begs being questioned and clarified.

Spoilt, truculent teenagers ever wailed, "You're suuuch a fascist, Mum!"

Surely, we've run out of puns by now. The scope for new ones has to be kind of scampi.

Go on then, scampi away!

😃

Victoria Culf is just a prawn of the right wing fascist military industrial religious complex. It's a poisonous cocktail of evil.

But is she being shellfish hogging all this right wing funds?