Hollyoaks - well this is creepy!

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This is an important conversation to have #Hollyoaks

https://twitter.com/Flashmaggie/status/1765511265076613611?t=DMjXSrOUX7zq5tzRgsRGEA&s=19

Certainly is strange.

I find your total confidence that you know my family and friends better than I do bizarre. We debate, and sometimes argue, over lots of issues, but generally all my family and friends are very liberal, tolerant and kind. I know those words are not popular on this particular forum.

You must be aware that gender critical feminism is very much a minority view. There are many people who are intolerant of, or prejudiced against trans people, but they tend to be generally socially conservative. Most people on the left and most liberals are pro trans rights. Those who straddle the divide are rare, so it's not surprising that I don't know any. I know some people who are trans phobic, but they certainly aren't feminists, nor are they friends, just acquaintances. They are all men too.

Good grief

Ugh

but generally all my family and friends are very liberal, tolerant and kind. I know those words are not popular on this particular forum

oh don’t be silly

loads of people on this forum are very liberal, tolerant and kind, i know masses personally including my children that are the same

Thinking that people cannot change sex is not a minority view

You've got me! I'm being paid by Stonewall/WPATH/the lizard people to come on here and advocate for the new genderist world order. You've foiled our cunning plan!

We are not at all aware that gender critical views are a minority, because in every survey where it is made clear that transwomen include males with penises, the vast majority of people agree with the gc position.

I think possibly the gc position may vary from the average where males have removed their genitalia, but this obviously covers a small minority of cases, and it’s considered transphobic to differentiate anyway, so it’s not as though that’sa more liberal position.

Wow.

Oh, I see…..that makes sense.
You spend such a lot of time on here, it must be awful for you.
Why so keen to hang out with the type of women you and your friends hate, who are such a poisonous minority?

So fox's friends are all liberal, tolerant and kind, except the one who wasn't obviously. But Fox bravely confronted her and doesn't talk to her. Fox's liberal, tolerant and kind friends are jealous of fox and applaud fox for their unwavering stance.

And scene

I don't think that many people who support trans rights think that people can literally change sex. I don't, and neither do any of the trans people I know. I don't know where this conviction comes from.

It was a gratifying moment for me, I'm not going to lie.

Yes, I'm sure you enjoy thinking about many such gratifying moments

You must be aware that gender critical feminism is very much a minority view.

Can you post some evidence that most people think that people can change sex or that biological sex doesn't exist?

There are many people who are intolerant of, or prejudiced against trans people, but they tend to be generally socially conservative. Most people on the left and most liberals are pro trans rights.

People here aren't against trans people having the same rights as everyone else. The problems arise when they want extra rights which are in conflict with the rights of others.

I really don't think I'm hanging out here.

'The positive nature of some child-adult sexual relationships is not confined to non-Western cultures.
Several of my friends, gay and straight, male and female, had sex with adults from the ages of nine to 13. None feel they were abused. All say it was their conscious choice and gave them great joy.
While it may be impossible to condone paedophilia, it is time society acknowledged that not all sex with children is unwanted, abusive and harmful'.

Peter Tatchell, 'hero of our time'

Really?

No one thinks people can literally change sex, they just think that gender identity is more important.

As to the second point, I'm afraid I just can't be bothered. It's Sunday morning and I have better things to do than argue with such a ridiculous statement.

He also wanted to go into schools to teach children how to masturbate.

And if parents really, really want to take their children out of sex education lessons, they must be forced to come to the school, and not do it over the phone, to make it a lot harder for them.

As you say, Arabella, heroic stuff.

So if they agree with us that people can't change sex and that trans people should have the same rights as everyone else, what do they disagree with?

Willoughby, on rubbing oil into their naked chest on Big Brother, said they felt absolutely nothing in that area. Zero

Such an understanding of sex is rare. But anyway, why does it matter if people can or can't change sex? I don't understand why posters here think it's so important. Just let people be. Their chromosomes and hormones are their own business and don't matter.

“Society would remove a lot of fear, anxiety and depression if, instead of repressing children’s sexuality, it acknowledged the fact that many children have sexual desires at an early age and accordingly educated children, so they are able to make free, informed and responsible decisions about when and with whom they have sex.”

Peter Tatchell, 'hero of our times', etc