Scarlet Blake trial - the thing that never happens....

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https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/24129077.oxford-murder-accused-not-accepted-transgender/

There was a thread a couple of weeks about this case that got deleted. Obviously it's an ongoing trial but it's as we suspected with the defendent.

Was that a late information addition, that did not appear earlier in the day?

It was added after I posted the link @RebelliousCow I'm certain it wasn't there before.

One report I read said something along the lines of ‘previously known as Alice Wang, among other names’.

Interestingly the transgender sentences have all been added later in the day in several publications. Maybe they all had one (poor) reporter who had to sit through the trial then feed the information to the other journalists?

Sorry - I've only just seen the article.

It's hard to believe that the press, despite everything that's being revealed by cases like this, still obediently follow the press guidelines written by trans lobbyists concerned only about "sanitising" press reports for their own needs.
Along with the police, MoJ & judiciary doing the same, the harm to public confidence in these institutions is immense.
As Sturgeon found out - eventually public fury will snap and they're not forgiving of those who deliberately lie to them.

The Guardian article was 'PA agencies' to begin with, and then changed to a named reporter.

Could be there is one source that was feeding bullshit information to them all?

Is there a problem with how our society treats murderers and animal torturers?

I guess there must be!

I saw the headline say 'woman' and was shocked. Then the story said transgender and it made more sense.

I am an unfit woman and would have such strength. Nor the desire

I skim read the guardian arrival earlier this evening and could swear there was no mention of trans status. I skim read to avoid all the sick details about the cat which seemed to have been included in the article in great gory detail.
Since then the article seems to have undergone a re-write. Screenshots of the headlines are below because it was still open in my browser.
I was so annoyed when I read that earlier version so I’m glad that it’s been changed.

I think you are right.

I'm glad the information has been updated but this shifting and gaslighting is a problem, too. The media needs to own up to what's going on. It needs to name sex clearly, and use correct sex pronouns.

The Guardian article was 'PA agencies' to begin with, and then changed to a named reporter.

This is often the case. Most newspapers can't afford court reporters these days, so they rely on the Press Association. Usually the stories are attributed to PA, but maybe there are particular circumstances in which they add a byline.

The PA reporter will have used the same terminology that was used in court, so perhaps is not entirely to blame. Maybe at some point a subeditor will have made a check, thought "fuck this shit" and added the correct detail about the killer being transgender. Maybe.

I suspect that is the case - the wording all seems very similar.

But then where did the additional information come from? The judgement?

I expect the extra wording came when all the complaints came in to the papers and then their journalists contacted the PA agency who then had to do a bit of crisis comms just as they were clocking off for the weekend.

HE is a vile human being. Don't attribute this crime to a woman

Blake talked in court about his transgender history.

And actually yes the judge's summing up also referenced his gender status.

He clearly needed help. Being his true authentic self...well you would have thought that would have been helpful. Instead it seems to have led down some very dark paths. Ashlynn Bell sounds like a peach.

Oddly, you seem to have a lower opinion of him than I do.

I just wonder about the time-scale. Clearly, after Blake had spoken about his status in court, and the judge's remarks, everyone knew for sure that he was a natal male. But prior to that, in the earlier reporting, did people (the press) know for sure that he was male?

[Disclaimer: nothing in the above should be construed to mean that in any way I excuse the Guardian's (and others') disgraceful reporting]

You know what I find utterly loathsome? Any person who knows this is a man and would still try to persuade women that this despicable human being is actually any sort of woman by calling him she.

That is utterly loathsome.

#RapistHill exchanges 2018

https://twitter.com/AntiAnja/status/1720437366454698011

you can tell a lot about a society by how it treats the people it loathes the most.

This is normally a good line, used in its natural context of debates about prison conditions, the acceptability of torture and the death penalty.

It doesn't work so well when the substance of what you are truly objecting to consists of... correct sexed pronouns. No-one is typing lurid fantasies of making him endure what he did to that cat; nor is anyone using any type of slur.

If the worst our society does to Blake is to refer to him as 'he' and a 'transwoman', our society is damn noble.

I am curious as to what the sentence will be for him. If it’s anything less than life/21 years that will be completely unjust. Sentencing is Monday FYI.

Anyone hearing him speak and seeing him in person would have been fairly surprised to hear him called a woman.

I wonder what the jury made of that. Being told something that they could see with their own eyes was a lie. In a murder trial based on what to believe.