Sunak telling Robin White that biological sex is important live on GB news

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'Particularly when it comes to questions around women's safety and health, biological sex is important.' Parents need to be involved in schools.

Rishi Sunak is asked 'why should LGBT people vote Conservative?'
GB News forum footage here:
https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1757143443111841900

To the pp who was questioning it, yes, gender ideology is absolutely in schools.

I have two, long running threads about how my DDs primary school is teaching GI, despite promising us that they were not.

A group of parents are tackling this, again.

Last year I was threatened with the police BY THE SCHOOL, for sharing my concerns on a year group WhatsApp chat.

Some schools may be better than others, but it is absolutely in schools.

Is there a specific address where all the alleged ‘left wing’ think tanks and lobby groups rent ?

Is Tufton Street just an address where groups who want to influence the current government policy, whatever political party is in power, rent space? Will the same groups be labelled ‘left wing think tanks’ with a labour government?

Policy Exhange states this:

“Ideas from at least 24 papers were contained in the Conservative, Labour, Liberal Democrat and Green 2019 manifestos – from social care to education, farming to judicial power.”

Yet apparently even Jonathon Liew uses that phrase ‘right wing think tank’ in his latest article that positions maintaining the female sports category as being a ‘right wing’ ideal while ignoring all the left wing women who started the fight.

It seems to be tribalism is prevalent at the moment and the dismissal of information because someone believes it is tainted because someone has positioned it as a ‘right wing’ source seems just more of that tribalism. I assume Policy exchange will be used by some Labour committees etc under a Labour government because they already have those contacts in place. So I will be watching with interest when the exact same people, such as Liew, will have to report on something the group produces under a labour government.

I just cross posted this same thing.

I look forward to seeing how all those who use the short hand ‘Tufton Street’ = bad people deal with it then. Or are all the current organisations going to simply change name and change address but continue as they are.

The business is lobbying and policy influence. No concept is too outside of the box, it is their business. That is what ‘think tanks’ do. They go off and produce documents, sometimes with no evidence because it is based on theory and they merely attempt to articulate that theory and conceptualise it for a government to use or discard.

Mostly though, I would suspect with evidence and make recommendations that are relevant to the task they have been hired to do.

God the Tufton Street garbage. Have people ever looked that road up? It's got flats. I suppose everyone who lives in one is "right wing"? Just a fucking ridiculous line of argument.

Is there a specific address where all the alleged ‘left wing’ think tanks and lobby groups rent ?
Judging by the evidence a certain poster constantly links, it would appear to be 90 York Way London.

The Rolls Royce HQ?

The Guardian London Office
Kings Place, 90 York Way, London, N1 9GU 😂

You've inspired me, @ResisterRex, to go for a wander down Tufton Street next time I'm in London.

I shall be very disappointed in there isn't a swastika flag hanging from every window.

That is the problem with buildings, isn’t it? You get the Guardian sharing a building with Rolls Royce.

True Helleofabore, I'm sure that the Rolls Royce in house magazine is more accurate however. I may start writing pissed off letters to them instead.
Are they non partisan do you know?

And yet, while we have to put up with Jonathan Liew ‘wouldn’t it be interesting if every female event was won by a transwoman’, we get Sean Ingle who just reports the facts.

Almost like even within organisations that may have a political alignment there is … well staff who deal with facts in their published work. Oh my!! Whodathunkit!

And… that published work should be taken on an individual basis… oh but, that is just my own bias and my own opinion.

I’d prefer the recommendations below to Liew misogyny any day.

Only a fool would celebrate the latter and refuse to engage with the former due to a street address

The Civil Service Fast Stream (accelerator programme) Assessment Centre used to be in Tufton Street. Explains a lot!

Really it doesn't. It is prime Westminster real estate.

And this morning on yet another thread, Adam wants the Labour Party to close down these 'think tanks', on Tufton Street down. Post at 9.03.

I'm starting to find this really sinister. We are only allowed to consider reports agreed to be adequately 'left wing'? And all other opinions should be shut down?

Good grief.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/chat/5006949-thread-37-sunak-rishi-has-a-plan-right?page=4&reply=133040541

My colleague's school did just that -- socially transitioned his 13-year-old daughter, without telling her parents. She is the typical profile: shy, neurodivergent, and identified as trans while her father was in the throes of a life-changing medical emergency. I don't know what the fuck they were playing at, frankly.

Did you miss the thread about the four-year-old boy who started school as a girl and the girls in his class, including his immediate peer group, only found out four years later when he started flashing his penis in the toilets?

And how the girl, imagining he was her best friend, and treated him as one, holding his hand, etc, became depressed and withdrawn and wouldn't go to school as a result. At eight years old.

Of course it affects other children. Utterly traumatic to think that your best friend has turned out to be a boy and that everyone, including the entire school, has lied to you for four years.

I guess we're in N+1 territory next...

AdamRyan

Mermaids, Stonewall, and other outsourced groups have indoctrinated thousands of children in schools. And the staff.

• 72 per cent of schools are teaching that people have a gender identity that may be different from their biological sex

Children are being told that if their interests aren't strictly controlled for sex, then they may be transgender.

So much so that the government has had to instruct schools not to say it!!

Where have you been if you don't realise this is going on?

Rightsraptor · Today 09:00

I shall be very disappointed in there isn't a swastika flag hanging from every window.

You'd better buy a bundle to take with you to distribute, on the off chance that anybody's neglected to fly one.

Datun · Today 10:13

72 per cent of schools are teaching that people have a gender identity that may be different from their biological sex.

Oh, for goodness sake, that's hardly any! And anyway, the figures come from a right wing think tank, funded by shadowy Tory billionaires.

Remember there is no definition of 'busy' on this thread, so busy can mean whatever anyone wants it to mean.

Either AdamRyan hasn't seen the posts of parents like rogdmum on here over the years, or they are saying they are lying.

It's happening. I would far prefer it if AdamR was right, though.

Helleofabore · Today 11:07

Remember there is no definition of 'busy' on this thread, so busy can mean whatever anyone wants it to mean.

Heh! In a very real sense, we're ALL Humpty Dumpty, eh?

I'm irritated about criticism of the use of the word busy.

It's almost as though yes, schools are indoctrinating children, and they're all growing up believing in gender identity, but unless loads schools are actually forcing transition on them, behind their parents back, then they're not 'bizzy' are they?

It's the nitpicking over the extent of it. When the extent of it is quite clearly significant.