PCC criticises police for reporting male sex offender as a woman.

[ArabellaScott]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-68268552

That's two sensible PCCs at least. Let's hope more join in to reassert the use of reality based language.

Good. Of course the police should “deal in facts”. Of course that sex offender was a man, not a woman.

'In a free society we are, and should be, able to live our lives at liberty to describe ourselves however we like - providing it doesn't affect other people.'

Quote from the PCC.

1. That doesn't include expecting others to describe ourselves however we like.
2. Self description affects other people, language affects other people - that is what it's for.

Language is for communication. It's a shared tool that depends on mutual understanding to work.

Deliberately attempting to change the meaning of words in an effort to pretend we can change reality destroys our ability to communicate.

Telling lies and trying to force others to tell lies undermines societal trust.

Fgs. The man might have identified as a 'woman' which these days has very wobbly boundaries indeed.

To say a male is female is just mad.

"In a statement, it said: "The individual identified as a female and the officers treated them as such in accordance with College of Policing Authorised Professional Practice, which outlines that officers should treat the person according to their stated preference."
Since gender can mean anything these days, does that mean if the person identified as 'cat gender' then the police would issue a statement saying a crime had been committed by a feline?

It's the dangerous capture of so many senior police officers by the trans lobby that's causing all this. Imagine lying about the sex of an alleged rapist of a child and then whining that they were only following orders.
Completely morally redundant.

Good to see him speaking out.

So if the suspect identifies as innocent, do they just let them go and drop any charges against them?

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/24112329.matthew-barber-alleged-child-sex-offender-is-male/

I wonder what would happen if a man dressed as a woman committed any crime and wasn't immediately caught. If the Police has to put out a bulletin asking for witnesses or any information. How would they describe him? I know something similar happened when there was an indecent exposure at a train station, a guy flashed some children. The police were very cagey about the sex of the perpetrator.

We've got a situation at the moment when any story of a 'woman' committing an atypical crime immediately causes suspicion that the police aren't being honest. Which is a dreadful state of affairs.

Yes, cake, this happens. Police have put out descriptions to look for a 'woman' when the person/suspect is male.

One example:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-48338381

This 'transwoman' was on the run for two months, and the police appeal described him as a woman.

Discussed here:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3646255-Things-you-hadnt-thought-about

There have also been missing persons whom the police have appealed for using 'gender' instead of sex.

Presumably these people have to be searched by a female officer?

The individual identified as a female and the officers treated them as such...

Still can't bring themselves to use factual, accurate language.

The police are terribly keen on ensuring that trans offenders get searched by officers of the sex they self identify as having. And equally enthusiastic about policies that allow male police officers claiming to be women to intimately search women in custody. They even wrote a very special policy about it.
Fortunately women's organisations like KPSS exposed this for the state sanctioned sexual assault on women that it is and Fair Cop commissioned legal advice which found it unlawful. The officers who wrote the policy have withdrawn it (and hopefully have all had their hard drives checked).

https://www.faircop.org.uk/police-strip-guidance-not-lawful/

The last time I looked at prison officer guidance on searching trans prisoners it was a bloody mess.

Wasn't there a case about a year ago when a teenage boy was sexually assaulted and the police description was they were looking for two 'women' one of whom was 6'3"

Yes.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-66107716

Yes that was it. Shocking. I'm guessing they never found them.

Police have put out descriptions to look for a 'woman' when the person/suspect is male.

Remember this one?

https://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/2017-03-06/crimewatch-tv-appeal-to-trace-convicted-county-durham-sex-offender

An appeal will be made on the BBC’s ‘Crimewatch UK’ programme this evening to trace a convicted female sex offender from Darlington who could be living as a man.

Lisa Hauxwell, has been on the run after being sentenced in her absence in November 2016, to 14 years in prison for a number of sexual assaults, which took place in the Newtown Aycliffe area in 2001 and 2002.

This person is not female.

I understand that the police have historically been homophobic, arresting men for consensual sexual activity for example, and wish to demonstrate they've changed (by, erm, pandering to male perverts). But the police are actively misogynistic. How many serving officers are being reported for sexist attitudes, social media use, assaults. The last I heard it was thousands. Perhaps they should consider that they've overcompensated and in doing so are completely undermining what little trust that women, and wider society, have in them.

Them hampering their own investigations by beclowning themselves also sits alongside the pride nonsense, arresting women at the behest of tras, allowing tras to assault and harass women with apparent impunity. And other nonsense too diverse to mention.

https://www.thamesvalley-pcc.gov.uk/contact-us/

'We would like to hear your views.To get in contact with the OPCC, please email us at [email protected]'

If anyone feels moved to thank the PCC for his principled stance, and to ask that he can provide assurance that male suspects or missing persons will not be called 'women' going forward.

OldCrone
So you would think the suspect was a woman who claimed to be a man, as opposed to a man who claimed to be a woman? Barking.

I've messaged Matthew Barber to thank him.

Great. I think that it's often really helpful for people to get feedback from the public and support.

Could be a man that used to claim to be a woman/transwoman but then when he went on the run reverted to his original male gender identity?

That was what I thought at the time

Correctly.

'Lisa Hauxwell, also known as Craig John Hauxwell'

From the Daily Record, in a story with dizzying shifts in descriptors and including the priceless sentence "On Monday, Hauxwell featured on a Wanted Faces appeal broadcast on Crimewatch as both a man and a woman in a bid to track her down".

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/crime/rapist-tracked-down-just-day-9991480.amp