NHS Rainbow badge scheme good news

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https://www.vice.com/en/article/ak38ak/uk-government-shuts-down-nhs-lgbtq-diversity-program-rainbow-badge-scheme

Good news if true, written by our friend Ben Hunte.

@suggestionsplease1

I'm not going to deny your feelings.

But, for the average member of FWR "we don't want to hear about your sex life" really doesn't relate to your average lesbian or gay person. Surely you must understand this?

It relates very clearly to those who are desperate for Pride to become a whole family parade and attractive to children (which is fine in principle) AND to have fetishist costumes, pup play and indecent exposure as part of that event (which is then unacceptable). Separate the two and not an issue.

Also the free pass given to some eg LGBTQ educators and performers to behave inappropriately due to their status. For example, the "teacher as friend" who discusses her pansexual life with her pupils (which crosses safeguarding lines that a heterosexual male discussing his relationship with his wife would be disciplined for) in the guise of "being supportive", or the trans woman who sang a degrading song and played the piano with their penis on national TV, which would have been immediate censorship had a straight white male done this.

This is what people are saying when they say "we don't want to hear about it".

Love who you want, but also respect eg safeguarding norms. Unfortunately, there is a small but not uninfluential (see Peter Tatchell) part of the LGBTQ community that is keen to queer these norms (age, in particular).

@BlueRidgeMountain I am sorry, I didn’t read your post earlier. Many 💐for you and all of us who have suffered such devastating loss.

I too am sickened and appalled by the photos in that link.

So sorry

There are no depths too low for some of the adherents of this ideology to sink to and what is equally repellent are those who cheer them on and enable them of which some of them are women. There is a special circle in hell for the lot of them.

BlueRidgeMountain - I've family members with similar experiences and it's affected them in a lifelong manner. I'm so sorry for what you went through reading that piece.

Brilliant @Boiledbeetle

I have just watched the news this morning and heard the unspeakable tragedy of a young woman who died waiting in A&E. She’d arrived seven hours earlier with a headache, and suffered a brain haemorrhage. Waiting to be seen.
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The NHS should have not a single penny available to spend on bullshit meaningless badges and flags and tick boxes if it cannot attend to its most basic, core duty of providing emergency care to people who arrive at A&E. It’s very very shameful.*

Absolutely. What a shocking state of affairs.
They probated her pronouns when she checking in though.

Poor woman. And her family.

I got deleted for answering the question 'what is a cunty type of woman?' with 'the kind that don't have a ladyxxxx'. Seriously MN?

I got deleted for calling a certain group a "cult".

This has now been stated in the House of Lords so it is a perfectly reasonable statement.

Not on MN. I think they have a mole.

Indeed, Lord Blencathra said it twice yesterday. He said things that would make his colleagues in the Commons faint dead away

As far as the NHS is concerned, the "Mum" who's just given birth is the patient. There's no reason to be remotely concerned with other members of the family, from a healthcare point of view? 🤷🏻‍♀️

Covering up our symbol is an attempt to cover up who we are, to make us invisible, to make us ashamed. To push us into a secretive existence out of fear of what encounters we may have

I don't think anyone should feel ashamed or invisible. In fact, when it comes to trans gender I actually think the opposite, take away any shame and be happy to be trans. But then that would mean being happy to compete in trans sports competitions, or use third/ open spaces, and that wouldn't satisfy some people would it?

If I turn up at A&E and there aren't flags and lanyards about being white, being female, being middle aged, being a cross country runner, being a libra, being a wheelchair user, being a vegan...... am I being shoved into a shameful closet?

This isn't what public services are for. These are not reasonable or even sensible demands.

@StarlightLime. You would indeed expect the NHS to centre the needs of the mother and baby. I don't want to be deleted (so being careful what I say) - but you may find this link informative.
https://childrenoftransitioners.org/2023/07/15/six-children/
It's linked to FOIs/ complaints to the NHS eg about workplace schemes such as the Rainbow badge.
@nothingcomestonothing I understand Lord B has more personal experience of the NHS than many and appears to be afraid of nobody!

There are some phrases and words that attract an automated deletion. I wonder if that explains the speed of some deletions. We could experiment…

Well said. Public services are being used by a group of adults involved in a niche ideology and none of the outcomes are good. Just vapid rainbows everywhere, countless millions of ££ diverted across the services into creating a hostile environment for women, undermining child safeguarding & (looking at the behaviour of transactivists), serious attempts to undermine democratic debate and free speech.

As we have often pointed out to you, if you actually read up on the 4 'best' countries, women are actually still second class citizens there and nowhere near equal. These 4 countries are just the least worst of the lot.

And now they are making things worse for women there by removing sex based protections, so yes, there is that as well...

It is still much easier to switch labels on toilets and score with hollow 'inclusions' that actually ensure good healthcare for certain groups of people

Anyone fancy a band 8b NHS Equalities job? It'd be great if the Maudsley could explain how to promote equality whilst being a Stonewall champion...

https://slam.nhs.uk/job-vacancies#!/job/UK/London/London/South_London_Maudsley_NHS_Foundation_Trust/NonClinical_Services/NonClinical_Services-v6026922?_ts=564

I wonder how many of these posts there are throughout the NHS at approx. £70,000 a pop. Hopefully not for too much longer though...

I think you are confusing the traditional rainbow flag, with the (so-called) 'progress' flag. No one has a problem with the real actual rainbow flag. It's the trans bit that people have a problem with. And most lesbians and gays say it does not represent them.

Re the desecration, I think it was about desecrating the 'trans' bit. Which is fair enough. After all, trans people desecrate womens public toilets with their 'transwomen are women' and especially 'a transwoman has peed here' gleefully spiteful stickers.

Your friends sound like misogynistic, uneducated ignorant bigots.

Blame the trans community for that increasing prejudice. They are the ones causing trouble and splitting your community.

You've been repeatedly schooled on this, I thought you learned your lesson last time. Correlation does not equal causation. That those countries are top economically has NOTHING even remotely to do with their misogynistic stance.

I agree. I'll add that for some of us posting here with concerns this is our community.

Or it was, until the increasing prejudice, hostility and rape/death threats and exclusion and conversion therapy narrative from the TQ lobby towards homosexuals pushed us out. Most of us were passionate supporters until we were harassed and taught that the lobby was no friend of ours.

The claim that there's 'increasing prejudice' is nothing more than wailing that having behaved very badly to everyone in sight, everyone's losing patience and good will.

If you destroy good will and behave like this to others, what do you expect?

I'm a lesbian and I and my lesbian friends find it terrifying.

Well since, according to you, you could be a married father of five, this is just jibber jabber.

Covering up our symbol is an attempt to cover up who we are, to make us invisible, to make us ashamed. To push us into a secretive existence out of fear of what encounters we may have.

If I had to pick whether this was coming from a lesbian, or transbian, I know which one I'd plump for.