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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Posie has launched her new party!

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HirplesWithHaggis · 08/02/2024 18:00

Party of Women, a registered political party.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/02/2024 12:42

www.theotherparty.co.uk/

pronounsbundlebundle · 09/02/2024 12:43

It doesn't matter if she loses her deposit. I'll be donating and I don't care if she loses her deposit and it's my money because it'll be worth it to discuss child safeguarding and the importance of sex, not gender, for that on a national stage.

Underthinker · 09/02/2024 12:52

Losing a deposit is just a part of life for smaller political parties in our system.

According to google, at the last GE, the Greens were the biggest deposit losers, failing to get the required 5% in 465 constituencies.

So detractors will try to claim that any deposit loss would be some kind of massive failure or humiliation, whereas just like the Green party, the real victory will be bringing an issue to a wider audience and pushing it up the political agenda (which arguably the greens have done very well over the last few decades with the environment).

Cookiedefender · 09/02/2024 12:56

This party is crying out for PR, without it, she hasn't a cat in hells chance.

PerkingFaintly · 09/02/2024 12:57

IClaudine · 09/02/2024 10:47

They are actually still going and standing in the by elections next week.

Is it too late for Posie herself to stand in these?

Nice little warm-up?

After all, the point is to get exposure.

PerkingFaintly · 09/02/2024 13:08

In fact, I've been a bit surprised she hasn't stood in previous by-elections.

God knows we've had enough since she mooted the idea of standing for Parliament (thank you Peter Bone, Chris Pincher, et alHmm).

And in a by-election she'll actually get more press attention because the media will be focussing on a single seat.

But of course she's the one standing, so not for me to tell her what to do.

EasternStandard · 09/02/2024 13:10

PerkingFaintly · 09/02/2024 13:08

In fact, I've been a bit surprised she hasn't stood in previous by-elections.

God knows we've had enough since she mooted the idea of standing for Parliament (thank you Peter Bone, Chris Pincher, et alHmm).

And in a by-election she'll actually get more press attention because the media will be focussing on a single seat.

But of course she's the one standing, so not for me to tell her what to do.

Surely the point is to stand in Starmer’s seat not a random by election

And coverage will be high for a GE, she’ll be fine

PerkingFaintly · 09/02/2024 13:10

Why?

EasternStandard · 09/02/2024 13:11

Better story and coverage

KnittedCardi · 09/02/2024 13:11

BackToLurk · 09/02/2024 12:08

There are lots of parties registered with the electoral commission. They don’t all get coverage. I wouldn’t bother trying to see conspiracies where they aren’t there. I suspect in the long run PP’s party will get lots of coverage. And possibly more than larger, more established parties

Not conspiracies really. Just interesting that there was lots of coverage last year on the two times her application was rejected, but all gone quiet now accepted.

EasternStandard · 09/02/2024 13:13

But of course she's the one standing, so not for me to tell her what to do

This part is fair however

If you don’t want Labour and its leader to be under the spotlight on this issue I doubt it’s this advice she’ll go to

MrsOvertonsWindow · 09/02/2024 13:13

Cookiedefender · 09/02/2024 12:56

This party is crying out for PR, without it, she hasn't a cat in hells chance.

Hopefully that will happen. As we've seen, every women's group has had to get smarter about PR, publicity, and being articulate and completely on top of thier brief. That's been achieved by most of the organisations.
Hopefully KJK has access to similar PR & legal expertise who will help her professionalise the party to ensure maximum positive publicity that challenges the other political parties to look beyond the queer theory activists they're currently in thrall to.

EasternStandard · 09/02/2024 13:14

KnittedCardi · 09/02/2024 13:11

Not conspiracies really. Just interesting that there was lots of coverage last year on the two times her application was rejected, but all gone quiet now accepted.

Yes there was and I googled and could only see the rejection stories

They are obviously agenda riven but hopefully a press release and new site will be up next

KnittedCardi · 09/02/2024 13:15

The logo is awful ....... I know not THAT important but a bunch of roses ..... Sigh

PerkingFaintly · 09/02/2024 13:16

You edited after I'd posted.Grin

It's not an either/or! Any election is coverage. I can't see any downside to standing in by-elections.

As @Datun says, even the Monster Raving Loony Party had a purpose, we've heard of them, and they were reported in every paper in the land.

And I absolutely agree with this bit

That's all we need. We need people to understand the issues, and not just that, but to watch our politicians' petrified inability to address them.

EasternStandard · 09/02/2024 13:17

PerkingFaintly · 09/02/2024 13:16

You edited after I'd posted.Grin

It's not an either/or! Any election is coverage. I can't see any downside to standing in by-elections.

As @Datun says, even the Monster Raving Loony Party had a purpose, we've heard of them, and they were reported in every paper in the land.

And I absolutely agree with this bit

That's all we need. We need people to understand the issues, and not just that, but to watch our politicians' petrified inability to address them.

I think it’s against Starmer because he is the most obtuse on the issue

BoreOfWhabylon · 09/02/2024 13:18

I don't think KJK expects to win parliamentary seats but she wants the exposure and, eg, to be able to display AHF billboards. She's said many times that she wants to concentrate on getting POW members on to local councils, school boards, PCC etc. All the areas that TRAs previously infiltrated that direct and decide policy. She wants to ensure that women's voices are heard.

NoWordForFluffy · 09/02/2024 13:19

PerkingFaintly · 09/02/2024 13:08

In fact, I've been a bit surprised she hasn't stood in previous by-elections.

God knows we've had enough since she mooted the idea of standing for Parliament (thank you Peter Bone, Chris Pincher, et alHmm).

And in a by-election she'll actually get more press attention because the media will be focussing on a single seat.

But of course she's the one standing, so not for me to tell her what to do.

She couldn't stand as Party of Women wasn't registered as a political party.

BackToLurk · 09/02/2024 13:22

KnittedCardi · 09/02/2024 13:11

Not conspiracies really. Just interesting that there was lots of coverage last year on the two times her application was rejected, but all gone quiet now accepted.

’lots of coverage’ where? Besides Pink News and Reddit?

PerkingFaintly · 09/02/2024 13:29

She could have stood as an independent. Many people do.

But you may be right that she much prefers to stand as a party. Indeed she can tell us why herself, should she think it matters – but she absolutely needn't justify herself. She's the one doing it, so when and where she stands is totally up to her.

Hicc · 09/02/2024 13:29

Not read whole thread yet, but wondered if KJK is hoping to target Brighton?

Other than it being a cess pit of TRActivism, it is also home to a strong GC contingent (a big chuck of whom won't work with her, though as she is considered right wing).

The Greens are fielding Sian Berry (TWAW), while Eddie Izzard was recently NOT selected to be the Labour candidate. So, it is an area where this stuff is very much out there in terms of public debate.

Cookiedefender · 09/02/2024 14:30

MrsOvertonsWindow · 09/02/2024 13:13

Hopefully that will happen. As we've seen, every women's group has had to get smarter about PR, publicity, and being articulate and completely on top of thier brief. That's been achieved by most of the organisations.
Hopefully KJK has access to similar PR & legal expertise who will help her professionalise the party to ensure maximum positive publicity that challenges the other political parties to look beyond the queer theory activists they're currently in thrall to.

You ve got the wrong PR, i meant Proportional Representation.

Not Public Relations.

Without PR, 15% of the general public across the UK, could vote for her new party but unless she wins at a local level, she will get zero seats.

pieceofpasta · 09/02/2024 14:33

KnittedCardi · 09/02/2024 13:15

The logo is awful ....... I know not THAT important but a bunch of roses ..... Sigh

I agree. She needs help with the logo

Windymoore · 09/02/2024 14:47

Ramblingnamechanger · 09/02/2024 10:36

A few suggestions for the womanfesto could be
Repeal of the GRA and abolition of the GRC
right to same sex care. Proper wages for care work
no men in refuges / prisons for women
no transition of under 18s
adoption of the Nordic model and establish exit routes for women from prostitution
priority for women as refugee/ asylum seekers
Restoration of full child benefits paid to the woman . Rights to other benefits as an individual.
compensation for all 50s born waspi women

any more?

That's a good start( though a slight caveat about child benefit,if the couple have the woman as the main wage earner,and/or dad as main child care, then getting CB paid to him would help towards pension/NI contributions. Though I know it's a niche point 😁👍)

stealtheatingtunnocks · 09/02/2024 15:33

Underthinker · 09/02/2024 12:52

Losing a deposit is just a part of life for smaller political parties in our system.

According to google, at the last GE, the Greens were the biggest deposit losers, failing to get the required 5% in 465 constituencies.

So detractors will try to claim that any deposit loss would be some kind of massive failure or humiliation, whereas just like the Green party, the real victory will be bringing an issue to a wider audience and pushing it up the political agenda (which arguably the greens have done very well over the last few decades with the environment).

That’s £232,500 of lost green money?
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