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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Posie has launched her new party!

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HirplesWithHaggis · 08/02/2024 18:00

Party of Women, a registered political party.

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IwantToRetire · 11/02/2024 02:28

You need 10 or maybe it was 20 signatures of people saying they support you wanting to stand.

You can google for infor or check the Electorial Commission web site.

MatchingBedding · 11/02/2024 02:50

@IwantToRetire thanks my duck! @BezMills keep it moving!
In the dentists surgery there are women muttering about what happens to our teeth when we have babies. Waiting to pick my son up early because he has certain issues I sit with the cleaners whilst the assembly finishes… they mutter too about the back breaking work they do to earn towards their pensions because they took a work break to have babies. If I’m lucky enough to get my hair cut in my local salon… they are muttering about the care jobs they have and having to give priority to men. My mum is 75, all her friends are muttering about the lack of health care for their specifically female problems, (I am talking prolapses, nasty shit that’s not acknowledged and nobody gives a shit). We are sick of being ignored. KJK isn’t going to solve our problems… but she might allow the THOUSANDS OF US just to be acknowledged. Nobody else is. They couldn’t give a flying fuck about any of us but we are a massive and important part of society. We are unheard and ignored.
Single issue voting is apparently pointless and laughable to some. Believe me, if you can, there is a LOT of women that really want to be heard. It might not be this issue but just to feel heard and understood will really resonate with so many of us. We just want to be acknowledged and we are not.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 11/02/2024 08:47

If you want to stand as an independent the Scottish women have a guide. Elaine Millar did it.

they are on Twitter at (@) letsgetelected. I emailed for mine, it is about how politics works and the rules about standing. Www.dangerouswomenxx.co.uk

elect her.co.uk have funding and information too, but they like women who have bonus parts.

EasternStandard · 11/02/2024 09:06

IwantToRetire · 10/02/2024 22:11

Yet again a thread has been derailed by someone who isn't actually interest in the purpose of the thread, but to endlesslly talk about their particular bug bear.

In this instance KB. So not only is this really rude in terms of what the thread is meant to be helping to consider, raise issues about, but exposes how fraudulent posting about KB is on this thread, when there have been 2 (or it might be 3) threads based on newspaper interviews with her.

But strangely no interest in posting there. Probably because that would mean having to engage with facts rather than fantasy.

I am not a tory and KB has some policies I disagree with but the uniformed arrogance of casually assuming she is the pawn of her husband is not only disrespectful to her, but to this thread by lowering it to uninformed gossip.

Given some of the hardships she has had to face (let alone being a woman and Black in the Tory Party) to have got as far as she had is fairly astonishing.

And as recent events have shown she not only thinks things through but follows up on them.

Why would anyone think that making silly lazy slurs means that they are contributing to a discussion, or that based on something so implausibly stupid will mean anyone will pay any attention.

And I suspect this lazy self indulgence will mean not bothering to check the index of recents thread on FWR to then go and get the links to the articles. Added to which it will mean having to face the fact of posting irrelevancies.

But maybe that was the point.

Diverting attention from KJK and her new political party.

It’s incredibly irritating and they show obtuseness

Back to KJK who will also have similar detractors

It all helps bump exposure though for women which I’ll take

WarriorN · 11/02/2024 09:12

MatchingBedding · 11/02/2024 00:27

I’ve had a few conversations in the real world about KJKs new party. The overwhelming response I have had was “clever clever lady”. She’s not doing this to win a seat, or go head to head with Kier Starmer. She’s far too smart for any of this. She’s a bit smart isn’t she.

It's very clever. It's not about seats it's about using the political system to make our points. Because you have more ability to do so within the political realm

NoWordForFluffy · 11/02/2024 09:51

WarriorN · 11/02/2024 09:12

It's very clever. It's not about seats it's about using the political system to make our points. Because you have more ability to do so within the political realm

And it appears that some people are scared shitless about the incoming sunlight. Oh dear.

WarriorN · 11/02/2024 09:53

What a shame

Never Mind.

☀️

WarriorN · 11/02/2024 09:58

The thing is, when political parties become authoritarian, grassroots political parties spring up.

That pattern has repeated throughout political history across the world.

EasternStandard · 11/02/2024 10:01

There’s so much to change

Even the polls that ask ‘do you care about trans issues’ are framing it incorrectly

It all needs to flip to women. This has sprung up because there’s plenty of intelligent women around who can see it

Tf

pronounsbundlebundle · 11/02/2024 10:16

Yes, KJK is brilliant and plenty of women are fed up of the authoritarian overreach of too many organisations destroying women's rights and child safeguarding.

All for the sake of men like Katie Dolatowski.

I have no issue with third spaces, and the organisations being found to have illegally discriminated against reality believers can sort that out

I always think it's a sign that KJK is doing the right thing and having a great effect when we get an influx of scolders trying to tell us she's awful.

We can make up our own minds, thanks. I would pledge to donate £1 every time a new FWR scolding post which lies blatantly about KJK pops up but it might get a little bit expensive, so will just donate what I can!

Compelling the speech of children and forcing them to use the wrong English pronouns (wrong in terms of sex but also grammar and rules of English - confusing children trying to learn a language) is emotional abuse. And she's one of the few pushing back hard against it.

Datun · 11/02/2024 10:52

SinnerBoy · 10/02/2024 17:16

Datun· Today 13:40

And to people under the impression that she's too obscure to be heard. Much as I wish it was different, I don't think it will be her viewpoint that makes the headlines, it will be the viewpoint that she exposes in others.

At this point, that's important, as it will expose the barmy views of certain influential people to a wider audience. KJK used to be reported by and BTL as a nutty feminazi in the Mail.

180° on that now!

Exactly. She used to be in advertising, didn't she? 😁

And although I believe that one of the most important things here is to show the country exactly what their politicians are doing about this issue, (or not doing), KJK will still be heard.

When you come up with brilliant soundbites like I'm not a vet but I know what a dog is, people will want to put you in front of a camera.

NoWordForFluffy · 11/02/2024 12:04

We got some free 'dog' stickers (for those that don't know, it's a cartoon cat with a collar tag which says 'dog' on it) with the bits we bought recently. I'm tempted by a hoodie (especially with 15% off this weekend) with it on.

I shall be wearing my new 'Witch' t-shirt to physio this week. Maximum exposure in the hospital!

Sheheshe · 11/02/2024 12:14

Can’t wait to see her on Question Time 😀

IAmNotAVet · 11/02/2024 14:58

Sheheshe · 11/02/2024 12:14

Can’t wait to see her on Question Time 😀

Oh my. That would be an episode worth watching.

BIossomtoes · 11/02/2024 15:31

Sheheshe · 11/02/2024 12:14

Can’t wait to see her on Question Time 😀

Nor can I. Her views on the situation in the Middle East and the state of the economy will be fascinating.

EasternStandard · 11/02/2024 15:40

Probably better than this

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borntobequiet · 11/02/2024 15:45

BIossomtoes · 11/02/2024 15:31

Nor can I. Her views on the situation in the Middle East and the state of the economy will be fascinating.

Her understanding of the situation is probably little worse than that of many backbenchers without any expertise in the area, or indeed many QT panellists who are not politicians.
What a patronising comment.

NoWordForFluffy · 11/02/2024 15:52

BIossomtoes · 11/02/2024 15:31

Nor can I. Her views on the situation in the Middle East and the state of the economy will be fascinating.

What are you implying?

You've clearly decided she has no opinion of any description worth listening to. I'm sure many think the same about you, but aren't so rude / dismissive as to say that.

She may know more than you on both topics. 🤷‍♀️

Dickish comment, frankly.

BIossomtoes · 11/02/2024 16:07

I’m implying that she’s a single issue expert. Nothing wrong with that. It was a perfectly valid comment in any context apart from this echo chamber. Yes, backbenchers and commentators display their ignorance on QT all the time, no reason why there shouldn’t be one more.

NoWordForFluffy · 11/02/2024 16:10

BIossomtoes · 11/02/2024 16:07

I’m implying that she’s a single issue expert. Nothing wrong with that. It was a perfectly valid comment in any context apart from this echo chamber. Yes, backbenchers and commentators display their ignorance on QT all the time, no reason why there shouldn’t be one more.

But you don't actually know that, do you? You've a preconceived opinion as to her knowledge. You do know it's possible to be knowledgable about more than one thing, right?

Posters on here keep displaying their ignorance too. Over and over. I imagine it's endemic throughout the nation.

EasternStandard · 11/02/2024 16:11

NoWordForFluffy · 11/02/2024 16:10

But you don't actually know that, do you? You've a preconceived opinion as to her knowledge. You do know it's possible to be knowledgable about more than one thing, right?

Posters on here keep displaying their ignorance too. Over and over. I imagine it's endemic throughout the nation.

I just heard a massive clanger by a Labour contender on the radio, linked below

KJK could easily be better than that

BIossomtoes · 11/02/2024 16:13

NoWordForFluffy · 11/02/2024 16:10

But you don't actually know that, do you? You've a preconceived opinion as to her knowledge. You do know it's possible to be knowledgable about more than one thing, right?

Posters on here keep displaying their ignorance too. Over and over. I imagine it's endemic throughout the nation.

It would appear so or we wouldn’t have had 14 years of Tory governments.

NoWordForFluffy · 11/02/2024 16:14

By the way, 'echo chamber' means this: 'an environment in which a person encounters only beliefs or opinions that coincide with their own, so that their existing views are reinforced and alternative ideas are not considered.
"people are living in partisan and ideological echo chambers"'.

This isn't an echo chamber as people with alternative viewpoints post and are debated with. It's not that we don't consider those viewpoints, we just don't agree with them.

NoWordForFluffy · 11/02/2024 16:15

BIossomtoes · 11/02/2024 16:13

It would appear so or we wouldn’t have had 14 years of Tory governments.

Maybe Labour should make itself electable then!

BIossomtoes · 11/02/2024 16:17

This isn't an echo chamber as people with alternative viewpoints post and are debated with.

Don’t forget insulted.

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